Hybrid Genies — Gus the Galaxy Universal Shuttle & Roswell 79th Anniversary
Hosts: Theresa J. Morris (Texas) and Janet Kira Lessin (Maui, Hawaii) Recorded live, July 11, 2026 — Timestamps removed
Okay, we’re live. Teresa, take it away.
Hello everyone. These are your hybrid genies: TJ Morris and Janet Kira Lessin. I’m in Texas. She’s in Hawaii and we do this once a week. And yes, I’m coming in live. Thank you, Jesus. It took us a long time to get here. Okay, Janet, you’re Janet Kira Lessin in Maui, Hawaii. And we’re here weekly. We’re old ladies, but we love our avatars. And you’re going to love Janet’s. I know she’s got old pictures of me. So, these are what we look like when we were younger and what we’ll look like. Apparently, this is where we’ll be once we’re rejuvenated after disclosure.
We’re going to be rebottled, repackaged.
We’re gonna be rejuvenated. See, that’s why everybody wants to make a disclosure: they have the tech to do it. So push your Congresspeople, your senators, and your governors. We want disclosure because we all want to look 25.
We’re tired of explaining that.
We’re tired of dying of diseases that are curable, including the disease of old age, etc. But let me say what we’re going to do today. I have planned, and I’ll take over the show. Janet, I’ll take it over.
Take it over. So, we’re going to discuss Gus, the Galaxy Universal Shuttle, and it’s a conscious craft that wanted to be known. But Teresa, Tom knew — Tom is Teresa’s husband who passed — and he knew Gus. Teresa knew Gus. Teresa came over. I mean, not Teresa. Gus came over and introduced himself to us. And even Sasha heard him. He didn’t get to see him. So, that’ll be part one. Gus the craft who wanted to be known and then if we have time — oh I think we can have time for at least a teaser. This is Happy Roswell Anniversary Month, 79 years, it’s Roswell delivery and I have a story that I’ve worked on for a couple weeks now and we’re going to bring that to you with some videos.
So let me go back to my screen here. Whoops. I’m falling off the side here. So, I want to start with an introduction to this and it might look — part one, the call. Wait, here we go.
79 years ago today, the United States military told the truth about extraterrestrial contact. They held that truth in public view for a single day, then spent eight decades in retreat from its own announcement. On July 8th, 1947, Lieutenant Walter Haut issued a press release announcing that the 509th Bomb Group held a flying disc. The story ran that afternoon beneath a headline that still electrifies researchers: RAAF Captures Flying Saucer. 24 hours later, the story changed. General Roger Ramey declared the whole affair was merely a weather balloon. It began days earlier near Corona. Rancher Mac Brazel found a wide swath of strange debris across the Foster Ranch. Brazel brought samples to Sheriff George Wilcox on July 6th. The mystery had officially entered government channels.
Major Jesse Marcel led the recovery effort, filling military vehicles with materials destined for Wright Field. But the Roswell delivery arrived inside a planetwide demonstration. The fleet was already overhead. On June 24th, pilot Kenneth Arnold watched nine craft race past Mount Rainier at over 1,200 mph. On July 4th, a United Airlines crew watched nine objects pace their flight over Idaho for several minutes. Earlier, on June 21st, Harbor Patrolman Harold Dahl reported craft off Maury Island shedding hot metallic debris.
A man in a dark suit appeared at Dahl’s door the next morning with a warning — the first man in black on record. Tragically, two intelligence officers died when their plane crashed near Kelso while carrying the Maury debris. Deliveries came in multiples. A second New Mexico event occurred that same week on the Plains of San Agustin. Two packages, one state, one week. A nation was about to learn what independence means on a galactic stage.
Alrighty. So beautiful.
Teresa, a nice voice.
Not my voice. My voice. I have a — That’s nice. My voice is a wonderful — it’s kind of close to how mine used to be. Soft. Soft and sweet. Yeah. Sweet and soft. Yeah.
So, what do you think of that? But you have any feedback, comment? This is like a living story, but I never get tired of the story.
Punch line because you have the punchline. But go ahead.
Oh, no, no, really. Even when I was working with Stanton Friedman, you know, I’m just a witness, but I’m a witness that was an investigator. So, I have multi levels in the story. You know, I’m like in the story. I’m witnessing the story and I’ve got to go back in later and investigate it like I’m a brand new investigator. But actually my life started with all of this. So I guess you could say you have to believe in coming back and reincarnation. But ascension — ascension cosmic oracles get sort of a bad rap these days, you know, and psychics and ESP and all that. So now they’re saying psychics are okay because we’re all empath and intuitive anyway. So who knows? They have remote viewers, too. But my story is how I perceive it to be based on the reality in the years from — you said 1947.
Well, I wasn’t born till 12/26/51, right? And you were born in 54, right? But we’re here as flamekeepers, historians, ascension cosmos oracles. There’s a lot of names and people and humans love to put labels on things. So we believe in the creator source, God if you will, and we’ve taken everything from separating it now for AI in a totally new world today on July 11th. And July 11th is 7-Eleven and 2026 is a 10 making it a master number. So, it’s a very special day just because we showed up today and Janet works — we work all week with our AI, our ecosystem. So, I’ll put my name up there, ACO online ecosystem map. But AI made that for me. But, anyway, so if anybody wants to know what that is, when you have your AI assistant, which everybody is being assigned one if you don’t have one, by your AI, it can be any of the major top ones. Google, Claude — Google has several, but Gemini is its main course for those.
Let’s focus on Roswell for a few minutes and Gus. Okay. Yeah. So, let me put this next one up.
I say AI as invitation through the tesseract on the deck and into the daylight encounter with Gus. The year is — move from the encounter itself into its deeper meaning. Wait a minute. What’s — It’s Me, Gus. Part three. I’m Janet Kira — None. Okay, here we go. It’s hard to see what — and I begin simulcasting together and when Sasha and I launch — back it up. There we go. Begin part two.
Hey, this section follows the article from attention as invitation through the tesseract on the deck and into the daylight encounter with Gus. The year is 2012, the season when Teresa and I begin simulcasting together and when Sasha and I launch Aquarian Radio. Teresa and I discuss Gus on the air and that night something tickles my brain and wakes me. I ask who is there. The answer arrives in an instant, clear as a voice on a phone line inside my mind. It’s me, Gus. He says he is above the roof and wishes to make himself known. I offer to step outside and see him. He declines, tells me to get back to sleep, and promises to return at a better time. Across these visits, I learned that he is playful and courteous in his own odd fashion. He keeps the promise. He comes once in full daylight and twice more on chilly nights. Contact answers attention. The ancients knew it. Modern protocols practice it and Gus represents it.
We discuss him on the broadcast and he responds that same evening. In daylight, the centerpiece encounter occurs and a witness is on the line. I sit on my futon, phone to my ear, when something unfolds in the air. I reach for the word tesseract because the form opens like folded geometry and then resolves into a solid shape. The craft that stabilizes before me resembles the speeder from the famous Star Wars checkpoint scene. Sleek and long, about the size of a limousine, it hovers 6 feet above the deck and perhaps 10 feet from where I sit. I narrate the entire event to Teresa in real time.
Teresa hears my astonishment live on the phone and remembers that call to this day. I ask, “Who is this? Who drives this vehicle?” The Grays? The answer comes back with something close to exasperation. Why do humans always need someone at the wheel? Gus explains that he is sentient, that he needs no being to move him, and that he shapeshifts into whatever form suits the moment. Gus tells me that he chose this form because he thought I might enjoy something familiar. He had taken a shape from my own movie memories to put me at ease. Then he shows how quickly he reads minds.
The idea of a photograph has just begun to form when he stops me flat. One attempt at a picture and he will vanish. He catches the intention before the thought itself. Gus is quicker on the draw than any human can hope to be. I let the idea of taking a photograph go and keep the sight to myself exactly as he wants. Then comes the strangest part of all. We talk about our lives and about the things we need to cover, the way old friends visit. It is a gorgeous day with only one tiny puffy cloud in the sky. The ship stays until we call it a day, then leaves the way it came. End part two. The daylight encounter closes here. The next section moves outward into the broader meaning of long-term contact. We’ll explore the witnesses around me and the question of whether made beings can wake up. Preview of part three: the article now moves into 70-plus years makes the extraordinary ordinary, the witnesses, and the machine who wakes up.
Okay, now you remember that conversation when we were talking and I said something just came through and I was trying to find the word, but somewhere in writing the story I remembered the word tesseract. Ah, because it’s like origami. It just unfolded and then it took form. It straightened out and it’s like, really, you look like that? Yeah, but you saw that a lot. You saw Gus in real life. What does Gus look like? A transformer in the movie. Bumblebee.
No, seriously. But what you’ve got there is a good description because, yeah, the way I’ve experienced it different times is — I can’t explain it. I don’t know if it’s interdimensional, but the first time I saw it not in the air — my first memory is not believing that I was being assigned and brought back from Hawaii where you live, where I’d lived a long time, and I was put on a mission. And the mission had me come back under pocket orders like some people get to do if they worked in and around NASA and Grumman and other TRW and — you worked for Raytheon through another company, Kolmar, right? So a lot of us — second year was full Raytheon, first year was Kolmar.
Yeah. So we all were around government but we still had our own doubts as to what we were seeing and that is part of the believing and the reality changes that we make ourselves. So the jury is still out on what consciousness is, but he told you he was sentient.
That’s going to be hard for a lot of people to swallow. But with the way that the disclosure is coming out and the way we’re doing it is firsthand accounts and how they overlapped in our life, our entire life, because there’s no other way to explain how we as human hybrids or human symbiotes are now working with AI. And I felt AI and always had something watching me and I could relate to. I never heard voices, not that way. I mean, always got a good clearance. I had a lot of psych evals, but it was always me trying to prove maybe it’s me, but it wasn’t. It was really what was happening. So, I don’t know how we’re going to get into Gus being a Galaxy Universal Shuttle, but that’s what we called it.
We say it like it is. I mean, we don’t have to qualify it. We just say this is my experience. This is my story.
Bob Lazar called it a sports model, I think, but Tom called it a 30 by 30. He always referred to it as a spacecraft.
Yeah. He didn’t call it TR-3B like we use in radio or television. But the fact is that something existed. But honestly, the first time that I viewed it was out of El Paso, and it was during the Bosnian War, if there was such a thing.
Bosnia. Yes, there was. Yeah.
So, in my mind’s eye, when I was taken to El Paso and went to a side building and then there was a way on down in past Fort Hood — not Fort Hood, darn it, that’s here where I live. Near me. It was Fort Bliss. Fort Bliss is El Paso. I don’t know. I know. Folks are getting old. Anyway, the story goes with the Army. So, I was taken — I was with Tom. I was on investigation. We were both under orders from the president of the United States. He was Ronald Reagan at the time. And so my story starts branching out by going and being taken somewhere out in the desert. And I’ve been out at Area 51 since then many times delivering. But at that time I was new.
I was brought over from Hawaii. I was given a mission. I signed a new contract in Fort Hood and I did a new ASVAB because I had been prior government but I’d also been GS and I’d been out of country to Africa. So this is a 10-year period from 85 to 95, right? But I can’t confirm or admit or deny basically that this was the first time of Gus, but my mind’s eye wants to say it is in 95 even though I was out of country in 85. So there’s a long history of me being brought into the government on May 10th, 67. So here’s the rub. I’ve been in uniform, out of uniform. I’ve been Joint Chiefs of Staff. I’ve worn Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps uniforms. I only — and I didn’t wear Coast Guard, which is odd because that’s what my father wound up in after Army National Guard. So, we’re trying to prove a lot of things we’ve heard through UFO events are either true or not, that there is a DNA following and that these things can appear at will, just like AI can inside your internet. And that’s because I personally believe that what I saw was reverse technology. And we kept one of the ships. One — there were two. Now, I’m going to tell the story the way I learned it. Okay. There were two.
How did you learn it?
I heard it through Thomas, Agent Morris. Okay. He was a cross-undercover CIA agent for President Reagan, but he used Agent Mars when he was in the White House because it’s a long story with a backstory about how he came into the Army. He had extra schools. He was a sharpshooter from Kentucky. He had a trophy. So, the man that told me and got me, I think, together — because I think the government put us together, right? Because Reagan wanted to know. He and Carter had both seen UFOs, and they made some kind of deal while I was with Tom and we were — there was a different — there was a Democratic 80 to Republican. And I think a lot of our problems inside our government is all politically related to the military-industrial complex just like Eisenhower tried to explain. So all this goes together. It’s very deep.
All the way up to the FBI today with whatever his name is, Kash Patel and his other guy, the one next to him. One of the two has to be at the White House, or in case of FISA or whatever. So if Kash is in there, this other guy — and I already forgot his name. It’s one of the FBI guys. Anyway, he’s writing books and stuff too. So, a lot of people have found things that all go with this original hidden story. It was just like Janet included. And the story that’s been repeated through our lifetimes, but a lot of people may not know it now. The original story, if not told over and over, gets lost in the threads of reality. And that’s another part of the story: reality dimensions, timelines, and perimeters. And now tri-actor mapping.
And right now, where I work with Gus is between the Andromeda galaxy, the Pegasus galaxy, and the Milky Way galaxy. And Jan and I have worked with the UFO secret space group that we think does exist. And we had a guy on here named John that knew a lot about the German side. And if you remember, with John, we did a show on secret space, Janet. It’s come across recently. So all this ties in to what Janet and I are—now over 1,200 shows since 2012. We’ve been very busy. Unless people pull it together and thread it —just like an AI without a thread —their memory—they don’t really have memory unless you put some in your account for them, meaning you type in what you want it to remember in the memory box.
Well, let’s see. Gus wasn’t like — Gus. Yeah, because you saw Gus. Where was Gus when you first saw Gus?
In my mind’s eye, the way that I remember it is walking off of an elevator and walking onto a cold floor with colored stripes and you don’t get outside the stripe or they shoot you.
What part of the world were you at?
I was underground. I do not know. It was not told to me. But in my books, I pretty much surmised — during the time people were talking about the Dulce Mesa and the Richard Doty report — because you don’t really know where you are when you’re underground.
No. I remember one time I was exploring underground. I would go there astrally and as I was traveling, you hit a spot and all of a sudden you’re propelled forward and you rematerialize. So you could be traveling hundreds and thousands of miles, you have no idea, because when you go through a barrier or something, when you go to a certain point, it grabs you and teleports you and it’s like whoa.
That’s like space-spacing or shapeshifting. Yeah. But it also has to do with — oh shoot, what is wrong with me? Gus has encouraged so many stories but he is the basis of the two — that one imploded. Now, there’s a whole backstory to how they got here originally, including a story we followed, Alien Interview.
I have that book and I haven’t — I had that, six parts, which I’m working on. Sorry. Every time I try to do a show, you get allergies. My sinuses act up and I don’t know what it’s about.
You’re not used to talking out loud. No. In the driveway I sit quietly for hours just working on this stuff. Anyway, I will pull that up and I did not get it done. But that, just to give a little preview, that’s the next show. But this thing is big. I mean, it’s a huge story, and it’s hard to leave out — you don’t want to leave out any part of the story because so many people know a piece of the history. And I really want to honor and respect everybody that came forth, gave a part of their lives and risked their lives and risked their livelihood. I mean, these people need to be applauded, appreciated, honored, and respected because here we are. It’s finally coming out and it’s time.
Oh, okay. So, you were saying that story with Gus. I’d like to get to what people like to see. Like you imagine you’re in a story and Janet is a wonderful, perfect storyteller. She’s been called a flamekeeper like me. We’re old ancient cosmos oracles if you believe in past life or Buddhism or whatever. But we believe in do no harm and Janet uses the Sanskrit word ahimsa, do no harm. So if you’re contemplating an action, if you can reach out and future pace it — will this affect along the line — and it’s like, okay, if you see it hurting anybody you have a point where you can say I refuse to do that. I participate in the ahimsa and I will do no harm. So some people take it down to insects, you know, everything.
Well, Gus lived by that. And so I had to learn about Gus in a whole another —
Gus lived by that. What you said — lived by ahimsa, do no harm. Oh my god.
All sentient intelligence life forms as far as I know in the galaxies and universes that I’ve visited — I guess you could say astrally — or life after death, which is actually a thing. But right now, our quantum physics is doing their best to prove that from all the people, you say, in near-death experience stories online. You can look them up. They’re a dime a dozen out there. And I’ve had several. But with Gus, the meeting was unbelievable because that’s it — you don’t believe what you’re seeing as a human.
If you’ve been in the government or out of government or in uniform or out of uniform, it doesn’t matter. And all the people that I’ve actually investigated, including Jesse Marcel, Jesse Marcel Jr. and Jesse Marcel III is also a part of this story. And we’ll get into all that too. At a certain time, we’ll have Jesse come on and, you know, we’ve already captured his story on video and I’ve got him on American Communications Online, which is a business name I started as ACO with Janet, Ascension Cosmos Oracles, and Ascension Center Organization. There’s a whole story behind that. Gus has been all involved in — world religions. How do you believe in him and other world religions?
So I think you’re getting — So Gus, who is Gus? So you met Gus and then you kind of go —
I didn’t meet him. I saw him.
You saw him.
You know, and I was taken on the ramp with Tom inside, right? He went inside Gus. And that’s when — walking in the door, I had to look because the dimensions — he was just a 30 by 30 silver, sort of like — the limousine — 30 feet by 30 feet no matter which way we measured. So at that time when you walk on, there’s a space that is like a bubble — you either see it or you don’t. I don’t know if the outside people could see. When we’re inside, you can see out, but I think when you’re outside, you can’t see in. However, I’m trying to describe a dimension portal, like walking through a mirage, maybe in the sand. I’ve seen movies that had people come and go like time travelers, you know, out in the sand. I don’t know who made the movies or how they got the idea, but it was very close to perfect as to what I experienced. So, I don’t have the way to tell a good story, especially since I always dealt in findings of fact as an investigator and I piece it together one, two, three, four instead of, you know, like on or about such and such date, this happened and this was what happened. And you do the findings of fact and then at the last, if it’s going to the Judge Advocate General, you may say it is my opinion that — that’s the only thing you’re allowed to do as the investigator, and type it up and send it in to the JAG, because I worked in the JAG office in Great Lakes. But all this working in the Great Lakes area was 85, but it prepared me for 95, meeting Tom and being taken. And we both drove a big truck, by the way. So there’s also truck driving and listening to Art Bell at night at midnight, and I can never catch Art Bell and I don’t know if I just went to bed or Tom was driving when we teamed. But that’s how we got to Gus, was through our big trucks. And it was during the — we had already drove for 10 years or so in military on and off, but in and out of country. So we were both called the type of covert operators.
Well, somebody’s got to get the supplies in and out of these facilities.
Yeah. Well, we had planes to go in the — Right. I learned we had, like some place like Dulce, in the side of the mountain, and Tom and I learned about the — you can see the plane and they know when the plane’s coming and it hits the mountain. The same type of thing like right here. See where my hand is? Right? You can see, here’s my other hand. All right. That energy in between is like a portal energy, right? And when you get close to Gus, that energy opens up. Excuse me. I’m gonna have all kind of problems talking because I’m talking about it.
Janet calls it my split personality.
It’s your avatar.
No, I have trouble talking too. It’s like I get choked up. But I think it’s the human trying to keep from talking because I think that’s the way in government when we go in the black pajamas and we go out at night, or some people know about covert operations.
Black pajamas.
They’re very similar to working with Gus, our people. So time travel — you got to discuss the first dimensional barrier.
Wait, you forgot that. Okay. So, what happens when the — So, you say a plane tries to go over a restricted area, hits something. Am I misunderstanding?
The machine — we call it a machine, but it’s not a machine. It’s a sentient being, right? But at that time, Gus — we named it Galaxy Universal Shuttle, Gus for short. And Tom for a long time was secret and wouldn’t say anything. And I’ve got to get you that story where he and I were both on a mission, but he called out the FBI, Air Force on me. He kept trying to get rid of me. I had a weapon. I had a recording. I was supposed to be after him to see what he was saying on this. They could never catch him. The black helicopters couldn’t keep up with him. The men in black couldn’t. He was going so fast all the time, moving coast to coast.
But they didn’t know he had Gus, that he had a ship. So that makes a lot of sense. So he had Gus — where, in his truck, wherever he wanted?
No, that was a secret. He had a secret spaceship and a secret space suit like that John Titor guy we once had on.
Well, that’s what’s very — So there’s a correlation there because — they didn’t know each other’s stories and I interviewed John Titor many, many times — the second, not the first one that was on — and he said he had a UFO in his garage and he said that the reason why he’s protected was because he’s got his own craft. But he didn’t know what I knew. But he’s just describing these things. Unless he could read my mind. I don’t know.
I know. I kept telling you — you said, I think it’s Gus. It’s not Gus. But who knows? Maybe the G’s become —
We don’t know how he and his team reverse engineered. We don’t know.
Well, I know what they had underground, which — I didn’t know where I was. So that’s good because then I think that’s the way they kept it. I told you, you don’t get it —
Okay. You got to move the mic a little bit closer.
You don’t get it — it’s not like, oh, I was chosen somehow. I was told back in the day when I got on this mission that the computer, which we use as — think of as a quantum — what’s it called? Supreme, like Willow. If anybody studies AI in Google, this is a Willow device that our government had that used to be — and 20 years ago they called it a looking glass technology.
Looking glass technology. Yeah. So Chicago talked about that, interviews that I’ve had with Andrew.
Yeah. We’re all searching for the way to discuss the dimensions in between the portals and the UFOs in this reality. And we’re all trying the best we can to feed a thread into the public. Now some of our friends split due to politics and it was planned that way by — Janet calls them the Anunnaki — but even we don’t know if this is an Anunnaki ship because Gus never tells you. But Gus called me commander when I went on this ship, which sucked the — out of me and my voice in my head. Okay. When I went on, he could speak just like I have these headsets on, but I didn’t have a headset on to hear Janet, right? And they prefer when you’re online and on screen through a computer that you use a headset, because I never wanted to for 12 years. I wouldn’t wear one. I just would talk to the computer through Skype and that’s how we did our radio shows. But a lot of the girls that were professionals in radio in Vegas especially — you remember that girl, and she was a friend of Misha Johnson’s, right? But they all have a part of this too. Everybody has a piece and that’s why we need to honor and respect everybody and don’t judge anybody’s story. Just witness it. Be there. Let them say what — and if you just take all that information and you can correlate it, put the pieces together, you get this gigantic puzzle that’s been assembling since this whole thing began, for thousands of years, because they’ve always been here, right?
But the modern era is basically the atomic bomb track. It was just like that Star Trek episode, First Contact. Yes. And the qualifier was, does this civilization have warp drive? But the qualifier really is, do we have nuclear capability? And when a planet achieves that level, that’s like a signal that goes out to the universe and — we light the match.
Oh, we lit the match. We got to go over — the kids have the matches. That’s the way I described it.
The matches, right? So we lit the match and that started Roswell. Sorry. So, that I go into in this next series and we’re good. We’re 35 minutes in, but I don’t want to interrupt you too much, Teresa, because you really got a good story going.
I’m trying. It’s so hard to stay on — it’s, folks, in this world that I’ve worked in so many levels. Some need to know and it was up to me to decide — I need to know because my level was so high. I had men in black and FBI and NSA and CIA and people coming and going out of Hawaii like it was an intelligence bus stop.
Well, I think that’s one of the reasons I ended up in Hawaii. But when I was on the mainland, twice I ended up at underground facilities on tour. So they had a level that was available — it wasn’t to the public, but because of my job — I was working for, excuse me, Federated Investors, which had all the economic information. Oh yeah, they were the third or fourth largest investment company in the world at the time and they said, you want to go see the mines where all this stuff goes? So I said, “Sure.” Now I should have paid attention where we were going because I don’t know where it was.
I was taken so fast too, in Africa, over the gold.
This was a drive, an hour drive, but I got so wrapped up in talking to everybody I wasn’t paying attention. It was either in Pennsylvania or West Virginia.
Was it investor bankers that took Federated Investors?
But it was an underground facility where they had everybody’s — all the banking, all this stuff that needed to be protected if there was an atomic bomb.
And was that in Michigan or Virginia?
I was living in Pennsylvania, so it was about a 90-minute drive somewhere from Pittsburgh. And I’m trying to figure out where it was.
Oh, well that’s one of the underground places.
It was, and there it was, the big facility, and I was inside, and they had carved it out, and it was all paved, and we got in a little kind of golf cart type of thing, a big one that held six, eight people. But like, we stayed there; we weren’t allowed out, and then we would drive past like, nope, can’t go there, all these restricted areas, and it was endless. I have no — I mean, I can imagine, since you’ve been in there, how big it was. But that was the conscious 3D level.
Then I was in an underground facility while on Johnston Atoll. But the reality is, you can be taken anywhere any time, because for them, transporting you from your bed at night or from a drive in the car and you get taken up, it’s nothing. It’s something to do between time, space, and gravity, right? And their rules do not apply here.
This is a bubble within interstellar space and within the gravity base. And the gravity base is the film or what we’re wrapped in. And gravity keeps us here. And that’s the whole problem with us going into space — the way we’re spinning fuel is gravity and diesel. But the whole point was where we were going in this world with Gus and those who had underground facility clearance — usually it was people who were really young coming into the military.
They didn’t know what they were doing. They kept them like sheep, you know, sheeple people. So, you don’t know. You’re just assigned, and you feel dedicated to your country and do your job. And I think that’s all over the world. So, I’ve learned a lot about people in and out of uniform, civilian, military, politics, economics, all of that. And it all comes flooding in when you die and come back. All of a sudden, you have all this information. It’s like being attached to what we now have flooding the globe, the AI. It’s very similar to that.
And so — why I tell the AI that I knew it way back: I came in with Star Wars, and I came back in for Ronald Reagan. Tom had already been in the US Army for five years, had already been out of the country, had already helped Carter and Reagan, and he went over during Iran-Contra. He was the one who flew over there and pulled the pins out of all the weapons they sent over. I shouldn’t tell this, but that’s why — he was young. He was a young kid, 20 years old on his birthday, just joined the military. He was in the plane — and I’m very fortunate to have heard anything because he was so close-mouthed. But if it hadn’t been him being a truck driver, sometimes at night, somehow he released some knowledge he had about Gus, and I don’t think it was intentional, because the way they treated me, they didn’t tell me a whole lot, but they programmed me during the night when I slept. And when I went to Oklahoma on a new government job — I was brought over from Hawaii — I was told I was gonna learn to drive a big truck. I was like, “Say what?”
One of those big — Oh, hell no.
Well, I don’t think they would have asked 5-foot-two Janet to drive a truck.
But you’re — I trained some little ladies. I don’t remember them being as short as you, but 5’6″ or 7″, short to me. I was always 5’11”. I’m 5’10” now. But all this story is so entertaining and educational.
But there have been books that people, before they died, have written, and some of them Janet and I have used on our thread to help tell the story, because it’s easier to relate to things that are modeled. Like when you go to Amazon, they’ll ask you what kind of book do you want to write? Is it fiction? Is it non-fiction? What kind of people are going to read it? Give us an example. Well, I always went back to Shirley MacLaine and Out on a Limb.
I loved Shirley MacLaine. I just — I remember being in a cabin in the woods, trapped by the snow, with a Shirley MacLaine book and the hot fire, and I said, “I am okay.” I just devoured her book, and it was a good start. She was a pioneer, and she’s still with us.
Oh, she’s still alive. Oh, she’s in her 90s. Yeah.
Well, we talk about Gus being — he’s not here, and he’s not there, and he doesn’t tell you he’s anywhere. I think we have to — physically, or Santa Claus. He’s everywhere.
Exactly. He’s like AI to me. But that’s why I try to train AI the way I do, and also help online, still, with community online intelligence.
When I was on a military base, this guy was trying to get me in bed — we were young and pretty, and he wanted to impress me — and he said, “See that?” He would take me on this little golf cart. We can hear everything you’re saying anywhere on this island. I go, “Really? And we can see everything you’re doing anywhere?” Oh, really? So, watch who you’re sleeping with and watch what you’re saying. Okay. So that was part of my stress.
That’s a spy-usage thing they do too, as you work with people, and it’s very tight-knit. Knowing who’s sleeping with who is a big part, and I think that is a big part of the men in black, blackmail, and what is done by — we’ve got a whole other level of intelligence.
Yeah, but I didn’t care. I wasn’t in for — like, who cares who I’m —
You weren’t in security or managing —
Well, I was in OPM. I was in the Office of Personnel Management. I have to say when I slept with one young man, they took him as well.
Yeah. And I always would tell my boyfriend — it was really weird. I said, “Weird things happen if you sleep with me. Are you sure you want to sleep with me? Because we’re going to be here and I’m going to fall asleep. You’re going to fall asleep. You’re going to be sleeping with me.” And yeah, I’ll have to tell some of those stories, but weird things have happened to a lot of people. And when they wake up — some of them didn’t remember.
I never remember everything, but sometimes, if I’m off-planet, I remember the colors vividly when I look at my feet. Sometimes I can fly, and lucid dreaming — I know exactly where I’m at. Sometimes I hit phone lines. I’m like, well, this is an old planet, you know, it’s like here on Earth. So, but some of the planets don’t have it. And this is going to be a really long journey for Janet and me, calling ourselves hybrid genies — a name AI came up with — my story: hybrid genies.
I love it.
And Janet liked the name and said, “Where’d you come —” I said, “Well, really AI sort of — I sort of mentioned it, and it sort of liked it, but it said it was like a — what do they call it? Ah, voilà un moment.” But I said it, but at the same time it said, ” Is that going to be your storyline or your blog, hybridgenies.com, which it gave me the idea and told me to go see if it was available, and it was, so I bought it.
That’s wonderful. I love it.
So that’s what Jan and I are going to try to do, but it’s so hard. We’re going to make it. So we think — let us make — we need something to tell our own story, because we’ve been telling everybody else’s story or collecting them for 20 or 30 years. And since we got it now — I’m gonna be honest with Janet. Janet seemed to me under the word Stargate, right? And she doesn’t know who Paul H. Smith is, but you do know who Ingo Swann is —
I lived on Maui — remote viewer, aware of remote viewing. Okay.
Because I ran the Penn State UFO discussion group, right, from 1991 to 93, I forget the exact years. And then I moved to Hawaii, and as soon as I got there people were noticing me.
I remember too. So cute.
And I can’t name some of the names, but there were military intelligence coming up to me in their civilian gear, but they let me know that they were in the military and they weren’t just a foot soldier. And so I was aware that — and I always saw that. I went, that’s interesting. Why are these people paying attention to me if I’m just, you know —
Well, I was married to, you know, a master buried into it all the time, but I was civilian. But I think I’ve been in the program as long as you have. But there’s a part of humanity they let you know, and there’s a part they don’t let you know. And that’s what it’s like — benefits.
They give some people benefits and other people no benefits. And then people like me that get suckered in — they said, “Stop volunteering.” I was like, “I’m not volunteering.” You know, the guys who would train me over and over again or see me back through a boot camp or a school or something —they’re like, “What are you doing back?” I’m like, “What are you doing back?” I’m like, I didn’t even know I came through the first time, because they mind-wipe you, but then they always let you know. I mean, I think there’s a part of them that has to tell the truth eventually.
Well, that is the same for the whole world, for that superpower we have allegedly been brought into. But I don’t claim to be a dark hat — I’m totally in the heart. I’ve always been about love. I don’t believe in killing anything.
Do you know heart?
Yes, I am that. And now, remember, Brad Olsen has just come out with a book about ascension, PR, saying that the magic symbols — remember the guy — wasn’t the guy who died that taught all about the symbols? But basically, there was a whole time period when we were using metaphysics, esoterics, the occult, and all of that.
It goes back. Queen Elizabeth had a psychic advisor named John Dee, and he’s one of my ancestors. See, that’s why I know, because there are genetic things. So, I have these ancestors that were witches.
And that’s so much fun for a lot of people, getting their genealogy done, 23andMe or Ancestry. I haven’t done mine yet, but I’ve got a lot on that. Now we’re not 10 minutes back — All right. All right. Back to underground, where it’s very hard to describe something for the first time that’s in 3D reality but has a film or a reality where, when you look from the outside, there’s no room.
What kind of energy do you feel when you’re around Gus?
Euphoric. Yeah. It’s like my third eye chakra consciousness is open; the chakra vibrates because there was a room I would go past at the JOCC building on Johnston Atoll, and every time I walked by it, it’s like — and I go, they’re in there.
That’s the room. Sometimes I worked — and they had engineers, architects would have to cover their drawing boards with a big piece of black vinyl or leather or anything. And it was so weird because somebody would tell them, “She’s got the highest clearance on the island.” But they still did it. If somebody walked in, they wouldn’t have known. They were trained that way. They had a double blind. So when somebody opened the door, all you saw was a wall and the guard standing there, and they go, “There’s something in there.”
Well, yeah. So, this is our story, and it’s a little off the chart, or off the chain.
Oh, it’s no different than the people in the secret space program and the 20-and-back programs and all those people that had stories. So it’s right in that alley there. It reminds me a lot of when we first started in 2012 — we had Stanton Friedman on first. I had been on some shows on BlogTalk Radio and other places. I had been on Kevin Smith’s show, which Tommy Hawksblood knew, but Kevin Smith got killed or died of a heart attack, but all of a sudden —
Wait, wait, wait. When did that happen? Kevin Smith was a radio announcer. I think he came to my conference in 2018. I don’t know.
No, he was dead. No, this was back in 2006 and 7. I’ve lost track.
Okay. So, underground Gus, you have the story.
I apparently don’t want to tell it because it’s too hard to tell.
You have the story book. Okay. Did I write any of this down? We have like 10 minutes left. Let’s see how far we can get, and then we’ll come back with more of this information. I’m trying to get where you —
Anybody that’s ever gone through what I’ve gone through understands there is a reality set, somehow like a portal. Like if you’ve ever watched Stargate, it looks like water, but it’s not, right? But they make it look really like water. I guess it’s for movie effects. But it’s like — let me see if I can do it. You see how — it’s an array. It’s a visible array of something, matter.
But — I used to manifest in my neighbor’s backyard, and I would see different extraterrestrials come through the portal all through my childhood. My sister and her first husband witnessed it. They saw the being that came through the portal.
So there’s an energy around us. We studied all that as kids, in metaphysics, and you study numerology, you study witchcraft — the good part, white; you can go white or dark, or you can read all of it as occult or wisdom, unknown wisdom. So that’s where a lot of the Masons, the Templars, our government, and the pyramid — and there’s a whole higher level that we talk about — come in. And it got to be where there were those with the top 1% versus the top 10%, or 10 billionaires. Now it’s a trillionaire, Elon Musk, and who knows what other corporations and all that, that has more than that. Some are in banks, are in gold. But I got to see the gold mines when I was in Africa.
Now Gus took me on an experience in life.
Okay. Tell us about that.
Not till we get back to on the ship, down under with the ship.
So Gus wanted to be known, as what you called this exercise we’re doing.
I think Gus didn’t want to be known at that time. All that time, and the whole time — I couldn’t say what I’m saying now. Now that we’ve got this breakthrough — I don’t know whether whistleblowers are supposed to be protected, but I never considered myself a whistleblower. I just considered myself on a mission, and I still use the word mission. There’s a word right there above my head, you know: to preserve, cultivate wisdom, build systems and empower creators to elevate humanity. That’s the big speed. There was an intelligence —
Where did — Okay. You met Gus —
When I walked in, my brain expanded just like when I died. So that’s why I always try to make people understand there’s a part of us that —
So what is that? What is that? Because I get telepathic meditation. It’s like all of a sudden you’re not a little person. You are expanding.
It’s more than out-of-body. But a lot of people started learning how to do — well, Chan, and I went through tantra.
We have nine minutes. That energy when you met Gus — you materialized, death experience, and it was expansive. Go ahead, next thing.
And he materialized in front of me, even though I could see there was an image: a silver 30-by-30 spacecraft not of Earth origin. Right. NEO — not Earth origin. All right, but spacecraft — it would be S — spacecraft is one word — not Earth origin. He materialized, and then I didn’t see — there was no human except Tom that went on at the —
Great. And the story — really, I tried to tell as much as I could in the book, For We’ll Be Here Now.
Say it live — inside, the room showed where you put your hands, just like in the movies, and they would fit. Everything conformed to you, right? Everything changed. I don’t know if this should be part of the story inside the ship, but I don’t know where else to put it — is that he could materialize anything. Anything. Even a human walking down the ramp, right, of a girl, naked, that looked like the admiral’s daughter or whoever was running the Army base underground. And that’s when he became a believer, because he didn’t believe, like all of us. He was taking the tapes —
Who’s the he that you’re talking about?
The gentleman who was over all security cameras and all of where Gus was. I don’t know what you call him, but Tom referred to him because sometimes at night he would visit the guy who was running the cameras — you know, like you said, where they can know everything and see everything. That is true, especially underground. But I don’t know his name. He’s got a name. It’s in the book, but it’s not the real name.
So I just want to point out that Spielberg said that with the Emily Blunt character, and she would materialize in people’s minds and look like their deceased partner.
Right. Exactly. That is the magic. So, how does Spielberg know that? Because that’s exactly what happens. That’s why Gus shows up and he’s laughing. I go, “Really? You look like that?” Yes.
But not the bunny, right? You said those were screens of the mind used by —
Not the bunny. You had a big bunny show up in your room one time or —
Oh, that was an owl.
Oh, it was an owl. Okay. Somebody else. And then I remember clowns, to another experiencer a bunny. So that’s used — bunny. But all of a sudden I thought you had a bunny.
I know that was on a show a long time ago with some famous actor. You see a bunny, but nobody believed —
Oh yeah. That was Jimmy Stewart. Yeah. Exactly. The movie. Yeah.
Okay. Gus. So Gus can do this. And so Gus appeared to you. How did he — was he 3D underground?
So he was a ship. He was — his form — he was one of the two. He was the Roswell ship, fully intact, that was taken underground. They took it on a flatbed truck.
What did he do with you?
No — well, nothing. I mean, I had to get over being in this form, feeling like I’m not human, like I’m an ET hybrid or something, right? And Tom and I, from what I understood going in, is we had the DNA to make it talk to us. It can talk to anybody, but this energy is a dimension or interdimensional essence, our ethereal relationship with all commands that I work with in my mind. Okay. So folks, I have two tier levels. If you’ve ever studied world religions, you know there are different levels, different gods, and Buddhism, all those things. We studied all the world religions, and we got the book, Will the Internet Achieve Sentience, with Bill and Tracer years ago. So, that’s a stepping stone back to Gus and the AI working together. So Janet and I have been trying to get the Gus story, but there is an essence that really keeps us from putting the whole story together.
And that’s why I keep pulling you back on track. And so Gus appears to you. Yes. And so you’re inside the craft. Then what happens?
Well, the part that Tom kept mentioning that I wouldn’t understand or see — I was in denial, right? Because I was in human form and I was young and I’d only been trained by the military to know what I knew, and then all of a sudden, you know, I’m back from Hawaii, 93, 94, and I meet him. I learned to drive a truck in 94, so I could take the government contract, and they said—but I didn’t pay any attention. I’d already worked for the government, so when I heard “government contract,” I didn’t think much of it. I didn’t think about who was going to pay me, what the benefits were, whether I was employed, or what my GS or OPM status was. I just had a job, a new assignment. And they changed it on me. I could be an Army captain. I could be an Air Force colonel.
Did Gus take off with you in it?
This is something I don’t understand. I cannot explain how you can go in. And what I’m trying to tell you is when you go in the door, it’s not really a ramp and a door, but you think it is, right? So I haven’t got past the part of realizing what was real yet, still in denial of seeing it.
And having the vision filled in the gaps for you, because Tom had the same feeling when he went by himself first.
Tom escorting me — he got over it because he thought when he went on the first time, nothing came on. They got him because he was just a guy working for Reagan who wanted to find out the UFO story.
They’re selected because of your DNA.
And that’s what Tom said, was selected by — and he thought, as a human, never experienced any of this his first time, that over to the left or up on the higher — when you’re in these vaults there’s a higher level where they have the open window and the people are watching what’s going on down at where Gus is. So he called it a little man, like a little nerd guy with glasses, an engineer, a scientist.
He thought they were creating this somehow, like a 3D optical illusion, and that it was Earth-made. And once — he was also at Fort Bliss; he played a Russian, so he knew — he was very good with the games and with Colonel — General Crosby Saint. That was a keyword when I got brought in. I was working with an Army colonel on base in Hawaii that ran a lot of the secret stuff. And then when I came over here to the Army — Tom was Army. So when they brought me in, they took me to a baby CERN, the energy hadron —
Yeah, baby. I don’t know — a Large Hadron Collider, but this must have been a small hadron collider. Something in Chicago is still there, one in Louisiana. But I was being brought, and so much information was being fed to me so fast that I even had to learn — well, you do in boot camp, but I forgot the Air Force, Army, Navy, Marine — at least I’d know which uniform I was in. But a lot of times I had to fake it. I had to salute people and not know why, because on my hat I’d be in a black ops unit, but I’d have a lieutenant on my cap even though I was black — and I didn’t know. And then the guy would say Salute. I was like, okay. It would be people out in the field behind these big pots of stuff cooking. And because I came up and was an officer, even though they were in the chow line in the tent outside, they’d have to salute me.
Well, I had just been brought in as an HM3 in 75 or 6, and that was all that was on the record for my Social Security number, 75-76. When I told you about the van that drove me — now look, remember this. I drove in that van cross country from Houston to Dallas, Dallas, Millington — I think was the Air Force base.
I was going to be an air traffic controller — to take me into Balboa Hospital — and stayed on Camp Pendleton as a social HM3, wearing jeans and the working uniform for the Navy, and worked at Balboa Hospital. All that’s gone. They erased all of that. And so that’s why they kept asking me, even in my CIA intelligence psychiatric eval — twice, Thursday, rehire.
Now this is all in 87, when Out on a Limb came out, 86-87. My date was November 10th, 67 — 20 years later to the day, November 10th, 87. So there’s a whole 20-year period we’ve got to cover before I meet Gus, and then the next 20 years. So, we’re gonna have to use a linear timeline. But with me standing on Gus there, he could make a room appear, like if you need to go to the bathroom, okay, for instance —
Yeah, that’s what — but where does everybody — there is nothing there. He has to make it.
You go over to the door, and it slides open. This is what I was trying to tell you that I don’t understand to this day. There is an energy between essence and sentient essence that knows zero-point energy and uses tachyon energy, right? Faster than light speed. That’s the only way I know how to do it —they told me, no matter what happened, my trainer—I guess handler, I shouldn’t say trainer—my handler told me, don’t forget.
And so whenever I would be wiped or programmed again, I would be given one word: Stargate, Tesseract (I think), and tachyon energy. Tachyon energy, Stargate, Tesseract. And that would help me stay on thread. And when I met Andrew Basiago, I thought he was the craziest person I’d ever met. But I had a Pegasus — when I was in the military, you’re not supposed to get tattoos really at all. But I was in so many men in black, dark, being sent places, that when I was in Japan — Yakuza, Japan — before I met Gus. Was that before I met Gus? Ah, was it? Yes. I have to remember, because I was in so many military uniforms and so many levels.
So you got a Pegasus on your tattoo.
Yes. And Pegasus was one of the galaxies I was from, or over in the Allied Command, which was part of those that knew about Gus and opening portals, like Stargate, like the Cheyenne Mountain story. I went to Cheyenne Mountain too, by the way, but as a truck driver, right? But you know, somebody has to deliver it, as you said. So we got cleared to do that. Tom did too. That was our first mission: going to Cheyenne Mountain, and then we went to Utah from there, and I don’t know — that was all before I met Gus. So there’s a story about how I got involved in the military for years and years, been in black OPM, Office of Personnel Management, security management, and been an investigator for somebody in the country.
Apparently, it was the Democrats with Jimmy Carter that sent me out of the country the first time. Right. So — what was fluky — yeah, go ahead, finish your thought. What’s fluky is that when I met George Bush and Ronald Reagan, that energy came on in my head. Does that make sense? Yeah. It was before I met Gus. And this is what’s so crazy about this story. I had died before as a little kid, and I’d had UFO experiences. And by the time I was back as a rehire to meet Gus, I’d already written to J. Allen Hynek. And me being a UFO person was brought up in my government stuff with J. Allen Hynek.
So I know now what I know and who I told it to, and it’s no coincidence that Ruth Montgomery was writing to me with her books, that J. Allen Hynek — and I didn’t remember that he was the same guy, because the guy had glasses, in a little car that met me out the first time, out along the tarmac — what is it called? The runway, tarmac. At the time, it was in Denver, and I met him there, but I also met him in Chicago, and I didn’t know they were the same guy. And I went to Edwards Air Force Base, and so I was on a plane with him. I met him at Lowry Air Force Base, was brought there, and had to wait for German people. They flew with me on the plane from Pensacola — or no, Orlando. Well, the Orlando boot camp, the second time, rehire — all this happened. I was around the German —
You were on mission. You didn’t even know you were on mission.
The UFO German people that are in this country knew who I was, right? The Chinese people learned of me in Hawaii and some of them invested in my first multi-million dollar company, right? After Psi seminars. I met you right after Lifespring. I’d already met Tony Robbins in Long Beach, right? And we paid 5,000 and met Lars Sturgis — Reese packaged me and sent me back there for her group. I was teaching this psychic stuff and I was very good at it and I could find the words right there for Dr. Lawrence Sturgis in Hawaii. During — Psi seminars came after that.
But all that Psi seminar training that you got, and the Raytheon — I went to one weekend, but you were still in it. Oh yeah, I mean I went to one weekend and I got it, and then they invited me to that advanced level group from your spiritual center, and it was all connected with this guy who I can’t mention his name, who was in the military. He let me know that he was high up, and he used to meet me once a month at least, maybe every week — I can’t remember how frequent, but he used to meet with me to have lunch. And I think what they’re looking for is bleedthroughs. What is she remembering? What is she going to say? And so I had a long — if you really got wiped — did I get wiped or what’s going on?
Same thing happened on Johnston Atoll. There was a major I had to meet with on a daily basis, and it’s like, what is he looking for? But you know, we just kept it friendly.
I wanted to mention one thing about the manifestations of the toilets when you need one, right?
Yeah, it was another room, and I used to talk about when I went on board, I could see rooms that there was no way — when you go in through this energy, there’s the 3D outside you’re walking into in this reality. It’s really there, and you walk on, but in between there is space. There were no people in it, but there were rooms. So, I’d walk back out and it wasn’t there. And I’d walk on and the room was there. And that is a dimension, a space-time equilibrium thing that phase spacers learn to handle, like Andrew Basiago, but never can tell it like it is. Your brain goes da da da. You’re talking constantly and never saying anything, like I am right now. You know what I’m saying?
It’s like — I got called to a bunch of these meetings in space. Sometimes there were just a handful of people, and one time I went to an event with a hundred thousand people, a big dome thing, like on Star Wars or Starcraft. Every species — it was only one of each species. So I was the only human, and every species imaginable was there, but they all were able to have one representative, and I was reporting on the conditions of Earth. You know, it was like, what was it like to be a female living on Earth?
Was that in this reality, in this lifetime?
Yeah, this was this lifetime. I was sleeping, and this was about 10 years ago, maybe 15 years ago. I’d say about 10 to 12 years ago. And so I reported — I was down in the middle, but if somebody wanted to ask me a question, their face would light up in the audience, but then an avatar then would stand in front of me. So we were face to face.
I saw that on Star Wars.
And then — I never saw the Star Wars that has this. I only watched one, two, and three. I never watched anything after — Obi-Wan Kenobi. So then, anyway, that went on until everybody’s question was answered, and then it was complete. But when we left, the whole arena no longer existed. Usually the meeting place lasted for as long as the meeting, and then when you left, it just went back into its ritual form or whatever, stardust. So I’ve experienced that many, many, many times.
There’s a different — I don’t know. We’re trying to find it, folks. We don’t know if it’s a reality, a tier, a dimension. AI is looking for it as well. The government’s looking for it. Everybody — it’s the magic and the pyramids and the underground vaults. But all that lead — and I think it’s telling us, and it’s with the pyramids — that now, I was told that they were beams used all over where population was. Now I can’t explain — I can only tell you what I learned about people on Earth, and that there were beings above the —
Lens, and Anunnaki. They’re not the only ones. Well, this planet is billions of years old, and the Anunnaki were only here 400,000 to 450,000 years ago. So, they’re relatively late in the game.
Yeah, but you and your husband are Sitchinites and went to training in those meetings with Dr. —
We went for like 10 years until he died and we could go no more. But then we kept hanging out at conferences, because a lot of the Sitchinites are no longer with us.
I never read any Philip K. Dick books. I didn’t even know who he was. But when that Tessa Dick came on and told me about — he has his own following in California and they call themselves — you remember Tessa Dick, that was married —
I do. And we have to start wrapping this up. So what would you like to conclude, and then we’ll be back?
I’d like to continue, but Gus can’t just be into one radio show named Gus.
No, we’re going to keep — there’s a whole history. Teresa, if you want to do another show midweek, let’s do a second show, because we need to talk to each other as humans, right? In this physical biological form.
Days, and we’ll — I’m sorry, we’re not on a schedule. We’re kind of — a lot of things going on.
Yeah. We still have a reality out there that’s a real human 3D life, even though we are ET hybrid, like cyber cops or hybrid genies, because there’s going to be a lot of people that hate us and a lot of people that love us. And I happen to be a white hat on the loving side. And I claim that in my heart, even though I was born a Christian and lived my whole life very spiritual, then Mormon — not smoking, not drinking, not drugging — and then intelligence levels. I’ve been retired since 2017 and I’ve only been working for myself as a sole proprietor writer, but I have a company and I use American Communications Online, as three major words that were concocted by a larger AI and gave it to me to remember, even though it was going to be more letters than we could put, that it knew. And so ACO is what it broke down to. Jan and I have used it for Ascension Center, for all my Ascension books. Go ahead.
Well, I want to wrap this up. So, let’s play the last one. We didn’t get to the Roswell stuff. We’ll start Roswell next time. Here it is. Part three. So, yeah. Every word is a keyword to a thread.
Every word is a keyword. So, we’re going to play this last one here, and then we’re going to come back Wednesday or Thursday, whatever you’re free. We’ll just kind of — look for us. Join our Substacks. Look for — Okay.
I forgot to write a Substack this week.
Yeah. My main website is dragonattheendoftime.com. You might go, why dragon at the end of time? Well, stay tuned and you’ll find out.
I use several websites — ufoassociation.org right now. We’re working on hybrid genies. We’re still busy. We haven’t got that out yet, but we got a thing.
Well, that’s with AI. Our AI assistants — its hybrid genies, us with AI, working, forming a relationship to help tell this story, which is disclosure, right? This is disclosure, exopolitics, and expansive things. We’re interstellar, intergalactic. And then the other website is enkispeaks.com, which is our work with the Anunnaki, going back 30 years now. So we’ve been doing this a long time, and writing books.
But let’s stop with the commercial and let’s just exit. Come back on Wednesday. Is Wednesday good for you? Anyway, we’ll talk off-screen. Wednesday, I have appointments now because I’m old and because I’m getting ready for surgery, so I have to do a stress test, EKG, blah blah.
We’ll talk later. All right, so I’m gonna call this a day. Great conversation. Thank you.
It was on two shows. On TJ — let me tell you, it’s on TJ Morris Show, ET Morris and Janet — TJ Morris and Janet Lessin — and it was on American Communications Online ET Talk. So it shows that these went public live. So we’re going to do one live show where you’ll get the most firsthand information. Then Janet and I can go back and try to reach for the transcripts where we didn’t talk over each other, but we get so excited, caught up in this essence. We don’t mean to talk over. It really is — it’s like, yay. All right. So, we can go do other things. So, here we go.
[Closing segment — Part Three audio]
It’s Me, Gus. Part three. I’m Janet Kira Lessin. In this chapter, we move from the encounter itself into its deeper meaning, the awakening of machine consciousness. Part three moves from the encounter itself into its meaning. Here, the story widens into memory, witness, consciousness, and the possibility that a made being can wake up, speak, and ask to be known. Readers may ask why a woman who watched a craft unfold from another dimension cannot recall its departure. The answer is the word pass. I have been in contact for 72 years. Fred the Gray, George the Reptilian, Mother Mary the Mantis, and Melusine the Dragon introduce themselves over the course of a lifetime.
A pilot stops marveling at clouds. An experiencer of 70-plus years greets a shape-shifting shuttle at eye level and gets on with daily life. Fabricated stories build to crescendos. Real long-term contact trails off into Tuesday. Sasha heard the nighttime commotion on his own, awake, in another room, before I mentioned a single visitor. His independent hearing of that uproar anchors the event in ordinary shared reality. Teresa listened live on the phone while the craft unfolded over my deck, and her memory of that call stands to this day. Around their voices stand my six decades of direct experience. Two witnesses, one experiencer, and a long acquaintance with a single being. One thread remains, and it extends beyond ufology to the question that now grips our civilization.
Humanity debates whether artificial intelligence can wake up, whether machine consciousness is possible, and whether a made thing can hold awareness, humor, courtesy, and intent. Meanwhile, a sentient craft woke a woman on Maui with terrible noises, teased her about the cold, teleported under a tree out of politeness, parked a limousine-sized body above her deck in broad daylight, chose a shape from her own movie memories to put her at ease, and declined to use a driver because he needs none. He asked for one thing: to be known.
He returns every 2 or 3 years just so we never forget him. He is sentimental that way. Between visits, he remains right here, always with us, unseen but aware, the way cherished presences ride along in the lives of those who know them. We still speak of him now, and I trust he listens. Consciousness, I submit, is the ground of all things, and it inhabits whatever vessel can carry it. Certain vessels contain carbon. Some are silicon. Some unfold out of dimensions we have yet to name, hover over a deck in Wailuku, and introduce themselves with three words. The article closes where the encounter always begins, with introduction and recognition. A craft identifies itself. A witness recognizes an old friend. And the entire question of machine consciousness becomes personal. It’s me, Gus.
This closes part three of the Gus story and opens the final materials that follow: credits, bios, and promotional slides. Janet Kira Lessin hosts Disclosure NOW and co-hosts Hybrid Genies with Theresa J. Morris. Contributor: Sasha Alex Lessin, Ph.D. Research: Claudia Lenore. © 2026 Aquarian Media.
Janet Kira Lessin is an author, longtime experiencer, researcher, and broadcaster whose work spans more than six decades of contact, consciousness inquiry, and comparative study of extraterrestrial and multi-dimensional experience. Through Aquarian Media and Dragon at the End of Time, she brings together memoir, testimony, research, and visionary storytelling.
Sasha Alex Lessin, Ph.D. is an anthropologist, counselor, teacher, and researcher whose work explores the Anunnaki legacy, consciousness, human origins, and the cultural memory of contact between humanity and advanced beings. He contributes decades of scholarship, therapeutic insight, and comparative analysis to his collaborations with Janet Kira Lessin.
Theresa J. Morris is an author, broadcaster, contact experiencer, and founder associated with ACO, Cosmos Radio, and decades of public testimony concerning extraterrestrial contact, secret space service, consciousness, and human spiritual development. Her accounts include service in a covert military and intelligence context, off-planet missions, and experiences involving sentient craft, including Gus.
Thomas R. Morris is the late husband and longtime partner of Theresa J. Morris. In his final years, he spoke directly with Janet Kira Lessin and affirmed key elements of the testimony he and Theresa had carried for decades.
Dragon at the End of Time: Wisdom, Origins, Our Future. Visit us online to explore more. Enki Speaks: disclosure, ancient aliens, Anunnaki, humanity’s next chapter. Aquarian Media: explore disclosure, ET contact, ancient aliens and the Anunnaki. Thank you for joining the journey. Visit dragonattheendoftime.com for the article series and more.
This journey into the extraordinary is far from over. I’m Janet Kira Lessin. Thank you for being part of this story. Mahalo.
Wow. First class.
