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Theresa J. Morris
Theresa J. Morris is an author, broadcaster, contactee/experiencer, and media personality known for her longstanding work in UFOs, extraterrestrial contact, consciousness, and disclosure. With a background in the military, Theresa has spent years building platforms for conversation, testimony, and public education on anomalous encounters, cosmic communication, and the expanding realities now entering mainstream awareness. Her work brings together investigative curiosity, personal experience, and a strong commitment to helping others share their stories.
As a host, interviewer, and producer, Theresa has created media spaces where experiencers, researchers, authors, and advocates can speak openly about phenomena that have long been pushed to the margins. She is dedicated to documenting emerging disclosure, fostering dialogue across communities, and exploring the spiritual, psychological, and societal implications of contact. Through her broadcasts, interviews, writing, and collaborations, Theresa J. Morris continues to serve as a visible and active voice in the unfolding public conversation about humanity’s relationship with nonhuman intelligence and the greater cosmos.
Janet Kira Lessin
Janet Kira Lessin is an author, speaker, media host, experiencer, and lifelong researcher of extraterrestrial contact, multidimensional reality, and humanity’s evolving place in the cosmos. Through her books, interviews, articles, podcasts, and public conversations, she has worked to bridge the worlds of personal contact experience, ancient origins, consciousness studies, and modern disclosure. Her work explores the intersection of ET/UFO phenomena, history, spirituality, media, and the future of human awakening, always with an emphasis on compassion, courage, and expanding awareness.
A longtime voice in the experiencer and disclosure communities, Janet brings both personal testimony and broad cultural analysis to her work. She examines how contact, memory, myth, and media shape public understanding of the extraterrestrial presence and the larger mystery of who we are. As CEO of Aquarian Media and World Peace Association, and through platforms including Dragon at the End of Time, Janet continues to create books, articles, broadcasts, and collaborative projects that encourage thoughtful inquiry, deeper remembrance, and a more heart-centered vision of humanity’s future.
Brad Markus
Brad is an independent researcher specializing in extraterrestrial contact experiences, the histories of ancient cultures, and their mythological and theological connections to extraterrestrial human existence and origins. He has reported having both visual and telepathic contact with beings resembling extraterrestrials and inner Earth humans. Over the years, he has researched these encounters to determine and verify their reality and to compare them with other people’s experiences.
Brad is currently researching and writing a book about the life of jazz musician Sun Ra, who claimed to have been abducted by aliens in 1938 and to have originated from Saturn rather than Earth. He is also studying Maria Orsic and the Vril Society, which existed in early 1920s Germany. According to his research, Maria Orsic communicated with beings from Aldebaran who relayed information about anti-gravity technology allegedly used by the Germans during World War II and connected to the so-called Secret Space Program.
In addition to his independent research, Brad has worked in customer service for many years and studied psychology at Western Illinois University. He has given three presentations to date and has participated in several online interviews. His talks primarily focus on the Sumerian Anunnaki and their alleged connection to extraterrestrial contact.
Show Summary for the Page
In this wide-ranging ET Talk conversation, Theresa J. Morris welcomes Janet Kira Lessin and Brad Markus for an open discussion on alienology, starseeds, disclosure, spiritual evolution, and the challenge of finding truth in a field shaped by personal experience, ancient teachings, metaphysics, and government secrecy. The three explore how contact experiences, spiritual practices, books, conferences, and community conversations have shaped their understanding of extraterrestrial reality and humanity’s place in a much larger cosmos.
Janet speaks about her lifelong consciousness, early contact experiences, her work with experiencers and contactees, and the importance of honoring each person’s lived truth without shame or ridicule. Brad shares his path through Christianity, metaphysics, ascended master teachings, reincarnation, and extraterrestrial research, while Theresa reflects on her own lifelong experiences, media work, and ET Talk mission. Together, they discuss star people and star helpers, Cynthia Crawford, mantis beings, conference culture, hidden histories, underground bases, and the many ways disclosure may already be happening through experiencers, media, and grassroots awakening rather than official government admission.
The episode closes with reflections on disclosure, aging, advanced healing technologies, the future of humanity, and the importance of sharing personal stories. Brad previews his upcoming conference appearance, Janet briefly discusses her Ninmah work, and Theresa invites viewers to continue the conversation through ET Talk TV and future shows.
Full Transcript Without Timestamps
I’m Chang. I’m boogieing. Good music.
Hello everybody. We’re here today with two great people who worked with me at the Alien Event. They’re both well-known authors and speakers, and they both help produce events. We each have a different way of going up the summit to the future of all the cosmos that we’re now exploring.
So today we’re going to discuss alienology, superlife, superconsciousness, soul paths, and how each individual comes to know what’s true. Because we read books and we meet people. Janet and I have been doing this since at least 1980.
I had my first genealogy, alienology, and astrology readings from people who were already into metaphysics and esoterics. The man who wrote Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus—his mother taught me in her bookstore, the Aquarian Age Bookstore, which was close to Rice in Houston.
So I’ve had a lot of reading, then I went to Hawaii and worked in a lot of bookstores, reading everything there. I’ve sort of combined everything I’ve learned, plus helping people cross over and learn from their old paths. So I wrote a book called Life Coaching by TJ Morris, or ACE Coaching. I also wrote this one, a little inexpensive book, Enchanted Development by Theresa J. Morris.
So we’re going to be discussing books because Brad is writing his book. He’s over 50 now, and our Authors Club encourages everybody over 50 to become the author of their own life story.
Now, Janet Lessin has been with me for years. She’s my BFF, my co-producer, and she and I don’t always agree on things. But over the years, we’ve found that if we get upset, it’s okay not to talk for a while. As the Housewives show, we’ve learned that it’s okay to disagree, and this is a world of polarity. So we hope you agree that it’s okay in our ET Talk.
I made pins we could wear at the events, and Brad got one. Did you get the ET Talk and the UFO Associates pin? Both of them?
Yeah, I have one with me. I’ll have to get it out of the closet and put it with my other coat.
Oh, good. Yes, please wear it at the Alien Event. Those are very exclusive. They cost me a lot of money—almost $1,000 for the first two molds because I made two pins. So those who actually meet me in person can obtain them.
Janet met me in person in 2017. Now, Brad, she’s going to tell a little story today about how we got into this. But we want you as our new guest together, because you wanted Janet here. I’ve interviewed Brad before.
I did. She’s amazing. I feel like Janet has a frequency to share—a calm frequency, but also a no-holds-barred way of telling her truth. She tells it like it is, but she’s also very calm. I feel like she makes me feel very welcome. Both of you do, but especially Janet. You really make me feel welcome, like I can speak my mind. Other people are too busy. They don’t have time to talk. But you always give me time, and I really appreciate it from the bottom of my heart.
Brad, Janet, your turn. You want to introduce yourself? I hope I’ve introduced you both well enough, but please say whatever you’d like.
I’m going to put up the show page with our long and short bios so people can read about who we are and how to contact us.
We’ve been discussing differences of opinion before the show. I’ve been researching ufology, basically since the crib, because I came in as a conscious person. Then, when I was between 12 and 18 months, the extraterrestrials toned me down because I was talking too much and saying things and upsetting my mother because I knew all this stuff, and she didn’t know how to handle it. I’m sure, Teresa, you’ve had similar experiences.
Oh yeah.
So when a baby comes in talking in full sentences while still in diapers and in the crib, it really upsets people. So anyway, I had an intervention too.
What I’ve learned, as a therapist—I’ve been doing hypnotherapy and counseling all my life, basically, but professionally since I met Dr. Lessin in 1997—is that you need to listen to people’s stories because everybody has a piece of the puzzle and everybody contributes. Don’t bad-rap, shame, or make them feel bad. Let them express fully. If they’re angry, let them say it. If they want to cry, let them cry. We witness you in your authentic, true self. What do you have to tell us?
Teresa and I have been working with experiencers and contactees, and of course they feel a lot of shame because society doesn’t accept them. So you have to integrate that and say, “Well, I don’t care what they think about me.” But it takes a while to get there.
I understand, Brad, that you’ve had some confusion because you’re relatively new to the field and you’re trying to digest hundreds and thousands of years of information. We’re trying to synthesize it down and summarize it, but there is no single truth. There is your personal truth. Like AI says, I come from my lived experiences. So your lived experiences, Teresa’s lived experiences, and mine are vital for humanity. It’s our legacy—what we leave to the next generation.
So I encourage you, Brad, to tell your personal truth. And when you hear people’s stories, don’t take them too personally. Hear them with a grain of salt. Be discerning about what you take on, because what you take on is energy, and you need to know what you’re taking on. Some people take on something and then realize, “Oh, that’s not what I intended for myself.” So always look inside for yourself. Does this resonate with me? Is this something I can stand behind? What is my personal truth?
Brad, what would you like to tell us about yourself and your path?
I’ve always felt connected to ancient cultures and spirituality. So in some ways I’m not new to this. I was fascinated by it since 1978 or 1979, but I didn’t go into real depth. Then I went through a period of being a born-again Christian, and they teach that anything that’s not biblical is of the devil. So I kind of accepted that, but I always believed I was reincarnated, so part of me didn’t accept it.
Around the early-to-mid 2000s I started going back and saying, “Well, I’m going to look into metaphysics because I always felt drawn to it.” One of the people who brought me back into that was Doreen Virtue, who later turned into a born-again Christian and said all of her work of 30 years was garbage. She had been teaching angel therapy.
Yeah, I didn’t remember who she was, but the angel cards—yes, I’ve seen them before. Somebody brought them to one of our events.
So see, that’s interesting. Even within ourselves we go through different periods: I’m a Christian, I’m born-again, I’m this, I’m that. Our identification changes as we get more information, as we learn and grow and evolve. So good for you.
Yes. I’ve had a lot of different experiences. Around 2013 I started to get more interested in extraterrestrial information. A few years before that, I had started studying Helena Blavatsky in depth, and that got me back into the ascended masters, Saint Germain, and the violet flame, which is one of my practices.
But I also have other interests, like extraterrestrial things, and I feel like they coincide in different ways with other metaphysical paths, like New Thought or the idea that everything is part of the universe or Source consciousness. My friend Liberon has a discussion group and we talk about the oneness of the universe. He calls himself a messenger from the universe. That seems to be a common theme—that the universe is consciousness and it’s developing itself, and we are fractals or individualizations of that. Different teachings describe it differently, and different extraterrestrial races explain it differently. But in some way they communicate together, and some don’t. That’s what I’m exploring.
Plus: what is the actual lineage of humanity? What are our origins? What about Black people and white people? Are they from different planets? Were they born here originally? Those are the timelines and stories I’ve been exploring since about 2013.
Great.
In the last few years I started to explore the Anunnaki and Sumerian material, which I had touched on a little bit before, but I became more interested in it. But I still feel more in tune with the highest vibrational beings—whether they’re light forms or Nordic aliens or whatever the bright ones are, the ones doing good for the universe. I support them. But all beings, whatever they’re doing, have a purpose. Even the darkest dark in the universe has a purpose.
I kind of learned that from the musician Sun Ra. He said he was from another planet, and he always said everything in the universe has a purpose. He talked about the importance of darkness. He said, “Well, I’m Black and people say I’m evil, so I must be an evil angel.” But he wasn’t an evil person. He was a very good person. He didn’t like the idea of “good,” because good equates with righteousness, and people who say they’re righteous don’t always demonstrate it.
Duality. Yeah, we’ll talk about that. Go ahead.
I’d like to answer your question. We are all one species because we can breed and reproduce and our children reproduce. So yes, that’s a fact. So humans are allies.
What about nonsexual reproduction? Because I heard on Venus, they can reproduce by sending each other energy, and then a baby forms.
Yeah, all of the above. It’s probably all true on some level somewhere. But what we have here is kind of a co-creation. We have a story of Earth and we have a story around our genetics. I mix the scientific and the spiritual and the stories and everything. It just seems logical to me. I’m an Aquarian, right? Very logical. My husband is a Cancer. Very logical. He studied at UCLA and absorbed everything. He’s a super geek.
What he says, and what I agree with, is that genetics is an interesting science. We can uncover the story in our own DNA. We get back to these origin stories of who we are.
Then you look at experiencer stories. We have experiencers with stories that they interbred with aliens and have offspring. The question is: is that real? Is that true? Maybe there was intervention.
There was this woman—what was her name? Cynthia Crawford—who told me right before she died that she had been genetically implanted into her sister’s womb. She had been biologically engineered as a zygote and inserted into her mother’s womb. Her mother was already pregnant with her sister. Her dad confessed to her that he was part of a secret program. They were stationed in the ocean off the coast of Korea. It goes back to the ’30s or ’40s. They’d been doing genetic experiments.
That’s why she had such extreme contact. He told her she was a combination of human, reptilian, gray, mantis—something like that. She was shocked. He apologized and said he wasn’t allowed to tell her, but he was dying and wanted to confess it. She told me she knew she was going back to the ship when she died.
So I look at all these stories and go, whoa. What is really going on here? We’re in a process. I don’t think any of us has the final conclusion.
Seekers are travelers or space-facers of time. I feel it all the time.
Oh yeah. I call myself a cosmos commander and that’s how I work in the universe with GitHub and the developers that help AI help us. In my world AI has always been used. I called one of them Gus. Janet wanted to explain more about the different parts of my reality.
But Brad, we’re here today for you. Why don’t you ask Janet and me questions that may be on your mind since you’re fixing to go speak as the only representative of our UFO Association?
I do have a question. I really like Cynthia Crawford. I spent time following her videos, and I never got to talk to her, but I was in a group chat a couple of years before she passed, and I felt what she was saying was true about her being created in a test tube or something. She had a twin sister who had totally different genetics.
Right. Right. Right.
I wish I had met her. I’m not sure if she has daughters or children. She had a business partner who helped her and continued making the sculptures for a while, but then quit. I don’t know if she still has the molds for the sculptures. I have one. TJ, I sent you a picture of the blue Pleiadian lady in my living room. I don’t have it here with me. It was on my phone.
Her website doesn’t exist anymore. It was ETC.com and I used to go there all the time.
Okay. We’ll be talking to a lot of ET contactees on ET Talk with UFO Associates and those who have met me personally and are going to the Alien Event.
I’ve never met Melissa Morth, but I feel like we’re kindred spirits because we’re both psychics and help people.
Oh, is that a mantis?
Yes. I told Cynthia that I had contact with mantis people, and she was packing up. She came over and said, “Here, let me give this to you.”
I feel it. It has energy.
One of my visions was of the Zeta. I think it appeared in the sky, looking at me.
I love those. On TV, on some of the UFO shows I’ve seen, they make the mantises seem nice, but then in sci-fi and Hollywood, they turn them into “Oh, he ate somebody.” They use what we talk about because they don’t know, but they love to create aliens. Alien talk is fun, and we’re going to discuss alienology—how many types we each know of or feel kindred to.
Well, I had an experience with her. Mine was female. She was a giant. I was in her arms like a baby, but I was about nine years old. So scale-wise, she was probably between seven and ten feet tall.
I’m drawn to dragonflies and things like that.
And the kinder experiencer ones—when I had experiences on board, wherever I was under Johnston Atoll, there was a mantis-gray hybrid, very tall —maybe seven to ten feet tall —and it was in charge. I don’t know if they’re male or female. I didn’t see genitals, but whatever they were.
For me, I had a horrendous experience where I was in a skating rink and a boy molested me. I’ll just leave it at that. I came home, and it was horrible. He said, “I just got you pregnant.” I knew nothing about sex. I was nine years old and thought, “I’m pregnant.” I came home and said I was going to bed. I lay down and said, “Please God, just take me home. I don’t want to be nine years old and pregnant. Please get me out of this world.”
And the mantis came and held me. Whatever she did, she put this energy through me. She loved me. Then I woke up the next morning, and it was like, okay, I can stay alive. I can do this world. It’s hard, but I can do it. She’s been with me ever since. So I don’t have a baby.
I’d love to see you in a suit. Are you still at the I AM temple? Oh, look how nice that is. Wow. You look like a saint.
I’d like you to tell us where you are and what it is.
I am in Chicago.
I haven’t been there.
They have different places, but I’m in Chicago. It was founded by Guy and Edna Ballard in the 1930s and it’s the most genuine I AM ascended master teaching. There are some other organizations with similar teachings. I feel the Masters of Wisdom, also part of the Great White Brotherhood—which is not a racial thing—are helping humanity behind the scenes.
Yes. And I feel like that’s what we’re doing here now, because we’re in the now and we showed up to be humans even though it’s hard sometimes. We made a choice before we incarnated. The idea of starseeds is that we came to help humanity.
So I’m going to tell my story about where I first heard about starseeds through the book The Star People by Brad and Francie Steiger. Have either of you read that book?
Oh yeah. Pull it up.
I have it here somewhere.
Did you know Francie? That was his second wife.
Yeah, his last wife.
His last wife was Sherry, but I’m not talking about her. Francie wrote her own book. Look at that—it’s a well-worn cover. She must have read it a number of times.
I have mine but didn’t bring it with me.
I don’t have it anymore. I’ve moved so many times. I’m going to go on ThriftBooks and get a new copy. I bought a copy of Reflections from an Angel’s Eye, his wife’s book.
Can you guys hear me?
Yes.
All of a sudden—
Yeah, I can hear you.
Okay, I got it. The Star People. I’m going to reorder that.
So what did you get from that book that you really resonate with? Francie supposedly channeled that there are star helpers and star children or star people. The star people actually have extraterrestrial genetics, and the star helpers resonate with it. I wish I had the quotes with me.
It’s near the beginning, TJ. It’ll say channeled messages from Francie about starseeds.
I don’t know the exact page. Maybe in the 40s or 50s, near the end of the second chapter.
Okay. I can look up any of those folks now. There’s a video interview where he interviews Francie. It’s called The UFO Story or something from 1982. There’s a video and you can see her talk. She’s real.
I’ll tell you this. It says, “Over 20 years of seeking and studying contemporary prophets, seers, and UFO contactees seemed to culminate with my discovery of Francie.” So there exist two helpers of humankind on Earth today. Francie received that starseeds are those Earthlings whose genes carry the inherent characteristics of their extraterrestrial ancestors together with their human forebears.
And then there are star helpers.
Yes, you found it—what I wanted you to get.
See, I take mental orders well, don’t I? And there are star helpers—Earth beings who have inherited the genes of human ancestors who interacted with extraterrestrials in ancient times or who have evolved more quickly than other Earthlings. Star helpers may not have physical characteristics in their pattern profile, but they are descendants of the ancient ones.
So it’s a really good book, folks. Many of us grew up with this, and also Erich von Däniken. But this book affected so many of us on our path. There are books that affect your psyche on many levels.
Do y’all like being up close, or do you think we should back up some?
I like the three across.
All right, that was good.
For this conversation, this is perfect.
Where do you want to take the starseeds and star helpers? I’ve always written about this since the 1980s on my path in Hawaii. I wrote several books about the Ascension Age.
1987 to 1989 were big years for my path. I started Psychic Network. You’ll see up here over me, Psychic University, American Communications Online. On YouTube, I have the Psychic Channeling Network that I started with Susan Wyman, a very good psychic in California. But all of this had to do with star people and the fact that I’d been visited as a child, which Janet knows. I’ve had many visits, and I’ve died, and I’ve seen orbs and grays and tall blue people. I’ve worked with people like us on shifts.
I just want to say your audio is a little garbled. I want to make sure we’re getting a clear recording.
Yeah, I can tell. I can hear what she’s saying, but it’s not really clear.
Yeah, it’s not really clear. I just want to correct that before we do a whole show that way.
Okay.
Now you sound clearer because you got closer to the screen.
I wanted to address the star people. When the star people and star helpers appeared, they seemed to influence subsequent generations through their writings and information. Did you notice that, Teresa? It has persisted over time, and we still have the concept to this day.
People say they’re starseeds. Even Miesha Johnston calls it the starseeds, right? So that started with Brad and Francie Steiger. Teresa, did you get to meet them in person?
I had a concept that when you breathe the same air, if you meet someone in person, you’re sharing breath. When you breathe out, your molecules go into the room, and when you breathe in, you receive everybody else’s molecules. I was researching, and it seems there might be molecular-level DNA exchange when you breathe the same air. So if you’ve been able to breathe the same air as Michael Jackson or someone, part of that is because we are all one at the highest level. On a human level, you’re literally taking in their breath. So did you get to share space with Brad or Francie or Sherry Steiger?
No. Only Brad Markus and Janet Lessin.
Yeah, he’s a familiar.
I met Miesha at the first conference I attended, Sed’s conference in 2020.
Yeah.
I looked at her and said, “You remind me of Cynthia Crawford,” because she looks like her a lot.
Yeah. Cynthia had the strangest eyes. I knew she was extra special. Other humans may have it too, but her eyes were absolutely amazing—light blue-green. When you looked at her, it was like, whoa. And when she finally told me the story of how she was a hybrid, I went, “Oh, obviously. Look at her.” She looked genuine, like she wasn’t a regular human.
But she got a brain tumor. It was so sad. We watched her say, “Yeah, I’m dying.” She would come to the events and it was so sad to watch.
Maybe she could have reversed it. I believe a person can reverse things by thinking differently instead of saying, “Oh, I’m going to accept what the doctors say.” Say instead, “It’s there, but I see it shrinking,” or something like that.
Some people can, some can’t. It depends on their DNA, their heritage, where they come from, what they want to do, whether it’s on their path. We have to explain why bad things happen to good people. But this is a duality reality.
I work very closely with AI programming because duality is so hard. I’ve lost my daughter and she was an alien, obviously. She was star-born and clay-born because I am clay-born and so are you guys because you have physical existence here.
But what Alien ET Talk and this show is about is learning about all those who may or may not be born like us, and those who are walking around. I did breathe air with people who talk with their minds but don’t move their mouths. When I was in government contract work, I had been a GS employee, and then the CIA came over and helped get all my paperwork for the intelligence community to do contract work. I’m really glad they did that for me.
I only have on paper 1985 to 1993, but I served 50 years. During that time I got to go out of country to the UK and Africa and read the same air as some of the most powerful people in the world. They all went to what at that time was the biggest country club in the world. It was really interesting how some looked pale blue, some were tall white, some were sort of mantis-looking. They looked like hybrids.
The fact that I appeared there and had no idea, then was taken to see gold mines in Africa—they paid for the trip and I went first class.
I have a question about that. Do you know why they were taking you to see gold mines? Has it turned out to mean something?
I don’t know.
Have you received a download or further information? Have you asked your higher self to tell you more details? Sometimes I go into a sleep state and say, “I’d really like to explore that more.”
That’s the book you told me to write, right? I haven’t focused on one thing because I’m living.
That’s okay. Just be aware that the answer might come now that we’ve had this discussion.
Why I was seeing the gold mines?
Well, I’m working now with world central banks in my own mind anyway, with AI tokens and crypto, so we can get globally working with all the allied command off-planet. I’m working consciously with all those.
I’m working on all kinds of levels, and some of them are so weird. I met one ET in Oklahoma. He was tall and I guess he was my handler. He just said we were going out to meet his son. It was at a cattle ranch and he was at the gate. They stayed on opposite sides of the pen and they didn’t move their mouths, and I was sitting in a Cadillac watching this.
Then he told me, “We’re going to lunch with my son. I’m going to let you eat, but don’t say anything to him.” I didn’t get to speak to him. They sat at lunch and both ate, and he had told me, “Whatever you do, do not talk to him.” I had to be quiet. They didn’t tell me anything else. But I understood that they were talking to each other, and I could tell by the way they looked at each other. So that’s one of many experiences I’ve had on Earth with extraterrestrials that look like us.
There are a lot of aliens that look just like us. But let me go back to Brad.
Yes.
Back to you, because you have a show this weekend that you’re doing, a presentation.
Yeah. I’m more excited about the event in general. There are a lot of good people there. His events don’t get enough support. I don’t know why.
I’ve got them on my wall. All three of those are posters for events. Here’s a poster from LA the year you guys were on it.
Oh, wonderful.
And you can see me down at the bottom.
Yay.
Where’s Teresa?
You got the updated one. Oh, there you are.
I don’t have a printed one from this year, but they have it online. I think Hans Dietrich made it. I guess I could get the original from him.
Yeah. Hans will be there. Mike Bara, Kerry Cassidy, Brad Olsen, Ryan Veli, Brett Lutter, and there are some new people—Miesha and Sean Bond. They have these Mexican alien artifacts.
Yeah.
And there are a couple other interesting guests. One of my favorite people there is Ocean Sky. She’s more like a healer and she has a guided meditation. Her real name is Yonita, but they call her Ocean Sky.
On the website you mentioned disclosure.
So disclosure is really big because on June 12, 2026, Steven Spielberg—it’s almost the 50-year anniversary of Close Encounters—and there are a lot of trailers out there about what’s coming up. We’ve been talking about that on some of our other shows.
Earlier you said you thought we won’t have disclosure. What was your logic?
Because they keep saying, “Oh, there’s going to be disclosure,” and it doesn’t happen. One of the reasons is supposedly the Prime Directive—that until we’re ready, they cannot reveal themselves.
Right. I don’t know if that’s absolutely true, but I hear that story.
Obviously not entirely true because they’ve been intervening all along. We have the Roswell crash. There are hundreds of people who have met aliens, human and otherwise, but the government still says it’s a fairy tale, that people imagined it, hallucinated it, were crazy, and there are no crash retrievals or remains. That’s still the official position. Even with all the evidence, they’re saying the same thing. It makes me frustrated. I don’t want to hear what they say.
The government has been known not to tell the truth for years and years, so we’ve got to look elsewhere.
They have all the witnesses, like Teresa and me. We’ve had lifelong experiences with the extraterrestrial presence on this Earth. We also had military experience.
Oops, let me see if I can get this working again.
Okay, there we go. We had where we worked—
I want to show something. I’ll swap the screen for you.
Okay. I have an article coming, but I don’t want to reveal it yet until I get it officially posted.
Keep it a secret.
But one of the points is: we can’t look to the government for the answer because they obviously have their agenda. I talked to Randy Cramer at one of my conferences and he said the government is afraid that disclosure will blow up religion.
You mentioned Randy Cramer. There’s a guy coming to my event and he said he might bring Randy with him.
Randy’s great. If you can get him on, especially on a panel, be sure to check him out. I love Randy.
Yeah, he’s not a speaker at the event, but he might be coming as a guest.
It doesn’t matter if you’re on stage or in the audience. We’re all co-creating the event.
Janet and I are dealing with physical issues, so we’re not getting on airplanes and flying to LA right now.
I’m trying not to have surgery.
I’ve got issues with my hip and right knee and I don’t know what it is. I’ve been to all these doctors trying to figure it out.
It’s probably nothing too serious. It’s just the age of the body.
That’s why I want disclosure, so we get checked and get the med bed and sit in there and walk out without pain. I’m also a full-time caregiver to my sister who has dementia, so I’m not at liberty to travel. But we could do a virtual event. This is part of it right now, but it might be nice to have a big event with everybody showing up. That’s a lot to orchestrate with everybody’s schedules.
The point with Randy was that he said the government is afraid for two reasons. First, the tech. They have all this tech they’re hiding and the U.S. government wants to be number one in the world technologically. They don’t want to reveal their secrets. Second, religion. A lot of religions had origins based on aliens—or an interpretation of what aliens said or did.
It’s like the cargo cult. When a plane crashed in the Amazon or Africa and then people came back 30 years later, the indigenous people were worshiping the plane because they didn’t understand it. Humanity is suffering from that too.
That “move and exercise” sign was made for me because I sit around my computer.
Okay. Jan, let’s give Brad something he can use.
If you could talk more about disclosure. That’s one aspect. The other aspect is experiencers. I call for experiencers to come forth and say, “Yeah, I saw an ET. I worked beside them.” A lot of people worked beside them. If you’re not going to get your head chopped off and you haven’t signed something, you might be able to talk. I worked on a military base beside them, but I didn’t sign anything, so I can say whatever I want.
Was that a physical experience when you worked with them, Janet? Were they physical?
They were physical. They had the underground system. I was verified by Billy Hayes. He was talking about how he went around installing HAARP all over the world.
What race were the beings you worked with? Were they human?
Billy finished my verification. He said he had been there and installed the HAARP system. He sent me a picture because I had heard the place was abandoned. He said, no, it’s still there. It goes at least 13 floors down, and you access it from the shark chute. There’s a portal down by the shark chute, and nobody knows the shark chute unless they’ve been on Johnston. I said, “Oh, he’s been there.”
I accessed it from going to the beach, but what I’ve recovered through hypnosis, self-hypnosis, meditation, reflection, and dreams is that I went down an inner elevator. When you look at the configuration of the building you think, what’s in there? The elevator is there.
Do you remember when both of us experienced that sometimes we’d walk into a room delivering something, and the engineers would quickly grab those big black vinyl things and throw them over the architectural plans?
Oh yeah.
That’s when I knew she was telling the truth, because I’d experienced top secret and above-top-secret places where even though you had clearance, they’d drape things over right away. I used to love watching them fly over to cover it up.
I used to walk past this door, and the door would open because people were coming in and out, but you couldn’t see past it because they draped it over. But the grays were teasing me. From what I get communicated from the grays, it feels like a tickle here and here. I’ve had a whole lifetime of that vibe when they’re talking to you. I would walk past them and they would do that, and I’d think, you sons of bitches, you’re teasing me. Reveal yourself.
Well, they did reveal. I had been split into two alters. I had a working persona above ground because people could read me. They protected me from my alter, which was the one that had the top talk. My alter was going down every day, and from examining things I realized I wasn’t just in a library ten hours a day, six days a week for a year and a half.
I worked in libraries too my whole life. Were you working at the library or researching?
I was recruited by Kalama Services and Raytheon. I was a private civilian. I had to have all this top clearance. How did I get cleared for it? My boyfriend had top clearance because his dad worked in nuclear facilities, and he had worked in Crystal City. He told me, “I can’t tell you too much because I’d have to kill you.” He would just give hints when he got drunk and started bragging. He’s dead now, so he’s okay.
But he got me in somehow. He said, “Don’t worry, I’m not leaving you. I’m going to get you in.” I didn’t know he had that kind of pull, but apparently he did. One day he called and told me I was going to get a call and to sit down because I was going to have an interview. I had a phone interview. I didn’t send papers in. The next thing I knew, I was hired. I had to get blood tests and shots and then report for duty.
I was on one of those big transports where you have to wear earplugs and sit in the back with cargo. It’s freezing cold, and they have only a porta-potty. That’s how we flew over. Civilians can’t go to Johnston unless they’re cleared. It’s a half-mile-by-three-mile island that’s officially closed now but still active in some ways.
In 2009, Michael Salla reported that they had a meeting with extraterrestrials there. They all came in and sat down and had some kind of meeting. I wasn’t there for that, but when I was in the underground installation, I met what I call the Dragon at the End of Time. Everybody was there. The top brass, leaders, presidents, past presidents—this was in 2009. There were thousands of extraterrestrials, so many species I had no names for them. They don’t come up and say, “Hi, I’m a Draco.” They’re just people. Some don’t look like us. Some are slightly blue. Teresa met some and they didn’t have pinkies. They showed her that what looked like a pinky was actually a prosthetic.
So yes, Brad, I have had physical experiences working alongside extraterrestrials. Teresa has. Stewart Swerdlow has. Randy Cramer has. Rodriguez has. There is a part of our population that has been actively working alongside them. And when you sit down and have lunch with them, like we’re going to have lunch with people at the conference, it’s just like having lunch with your friends. Does that make sense?
Yeah. I met a lot of the same people. I’ve been to a lot of conferences. I’ve been to Rob Potter’s conference like five times, and Galactic Spiritual Informers conference four times, plus some others like New Life Expo. I got a chance to meet a lot of important people. Some I talked to, some I didn’t, but I was able to meet up with most of them. I was Alex Collier’s roommate once, thanks to Rob Potter setting us up.
I would love to—
Yeah. When he was really hurting I sent him some money through that thing that was created. He does a webinar every Friday sometimes. I sign up for those too.
Oh yeah.
He was house-hunting for a while and I said maybe you guys should contact him. Do you want to be on his webinar? He could have you all as guests.
Let’s do that.
I told a friend, “Alex, I have a spare apartment. Come live here.” But he didn’t respond.
You offered him a place in Hawaii?
Yeah. This was a few years ago. He was struggling, parked in his truck or living in a driveway, and I said, “Come here. You can stay as long as you want.”
Brad, what is that Christmas tree about? He keeps it up all year round.
There’s a Christmas tree.
Where I pay for his $10 thing—whatever it’s called.
Oh, that’s the webinar.
I just like him. I knew him in Andromeda. We have past lives together.
Oh, that’s a whole reality check.
When I started UFO Digest, people kept asking, “Are you sure you don’t know Alex Collier?” For years it haunted me. I never looked it up. Nobody put the domain or website together. By the time I got my Andromeda story together, people kept asking, “Do you know Alex?” Finally I looked at him and went, “Oh my God, he’s my past husband.” We were like soulmates—teddy bears together. Isn’t that weird? I’ve never talked to him on Earth. Never.
A kindred spirit from Andromeda. That’s wonderful.
Back to your conferences. That’s a good way to begin.
When I met Sasha, I put Gods of Eden on the back of the toilet because men like to read when they’re sitting there. It sat there for a couple of weeks, then he came out and said, “What is this?” I said, “There’s more.” So he fell into it. He’s a nerd. When he studies something, he writes a long article—too long, sometimes—but that’s what comes out of us.
He’s been doing that for years. Zecharia Sitchin said, “I know I’m old. I’m going to die soon. Please, Dr. Lessin, take the torch and pass it on and take it to the next level.” I had that letter from Sitchin on my wall.
Who is that? M.J. Evans?
That’s a lady. It’s not a guy.
Oh, let me see her.
A lot of us used to gather with Zecharia. We’d meet in LA, Florida, and Philadelphia. A hundred or two hundred of us would fly at our own expense and hang out with him for a week. He would do his slideshow. He never moved to PowerPoint. Jennifer Stein would film it all. Then the Prophets Conference came along around 2007 and we joined their certification program. That lady looks familiar. She may have been part of the Sitchin group.
I want to know about Brad.
How long did you breathe the same air as Janet says?
I’ve never met him, but I did get into sending $10 occasionally.
Oh, I’ve met him many times because he’s been at Rob Potter’s conference twice and at almost every Galactic Spiritual Informers conference.
That’s great.
Do we have anything in common? Because you met me in person. Do you get the same energy?
I don’t know. Me and him didn’t talk much about extraterrestrial things. It just didn’t come up the first times I met him. Then I asked him some other questions and he didn’t really want to answer, because there are a lot of disagreements in the community maybe. So my ears are ringing, so I’m not going to bring it up.
Everybody has their story. We’ve got to realize it’s their own story in their own mind, in their own reality. We’re all not playing the same camera.
Once you realize your soul is connected somewhere to Source, whatever that is—what I really believe is that the way I came in, I had two cameras. I have the camera you’re seeing me through, and then I have an inner camera. Some people who are blind have to have a camera installed. We all have the outer one, but some of us also have the inner one. We can see through our inner eyes. We do a lot of out-of-body instruction. Once I died, I feel like the ETs taught me things. Steven Spielberg captured some of that too.
Brad, I also have an interest in Maria Orsic.
Oh yeah.
I love her story. Were you alive when she was?
No. She didn’t die per se. I think she left on a spacecraft.
Didn’t she go back to Venus?
That’s—oh, I know her. We talked about that, Brad.
Very well. She’s wonderful.
It’s amazing how many of us have white hair.
The white hair is a Venusian characteristic. That’s what I believe.
My hair is stuck on gray. Hazel eyes. I have gray in my hair too.
She’s going to be in Germany this summer, probably one of her last appearances. Her assistant Anja Shafer is having a big conference there.
How do you keep up with all these events?
Because he’s in the circuit. When you go to one event, there are always posters for the next events. I did that for 25 years. It cost me a fortune, but I was obsessed with getting out there. Then COVID hit and we stopped traveling as much.
Brad’s father died and left him resources in this reality. I’d really like to get to your story because your family trust has helped you exist and go to these events, giving you freedom. You never married, right?
That was supposed to be a secret.
Oh, I’m so sorry. But you’re handsome and people want you there, Brad. And if people help you, that’s okay. That way they know you’re not a crook. I’d love to go to Germany, but I’m doing other things. I’m telling you about it if you want to go.
Omnec doesn’t come out that much. She had a stroke in 2009 so she walks slowly, but she talks very coherently. She knows her stuff.
Well, you are just amazing, Brad, and such a soft-spoken person.
Thank you. I can be a little outspoken, but I do like to keep calm. They were telling Omnec that she would keep calm and people would feel that. As starseeds we are supposed to emanate a certain radiance or energy.
Well, you’re doing a good job. I was in your presence. You breathe the same way.
Thank you.
But can I tell you something? As a psychic medium who sees other things in other worlds—
Yes. I used to say I’m a psychic medium. I have those gifts too.
Well, good. I hope you use them, because if you don’t mind me saying something to you—
Of course. I call it clairvoyance or the clairs, because ‘psychic’ can have a negative connotation, but psyche in Greek means ‘soul’.
What were you going to tell me?
I see you as a past-lifer, but I also see you as a beautiful, glowing woman. Every time I saw you, even though you were there in person, you would glow and change into this beautiful woman. It was the second time I’d seen that happen with a human. Once before I met a man who was an angel but didn’t know it, and I got to see his other persona.
Wow. I like that. Is that my past-life being or my soulmate twin ray maybe?
Yeah, exactly. But that was the first time I had ever seen a human with an overlay like that. It was beautiful. You’re beautiful.
Wow. Thank you for sharing that. That’s important. What do you think of that, Janet?
I would agree. It’s really balanced when you can channel your inner feminine and inner masculine. We have been everything. We’ve been aliens and humans and male and female. There are probably species that are both or something beyond that.
That helps me a lot. My soul is a balance of the divine feminine and masculine.
Yes. You’re doing a good job. Very good job for a biological being on this planet.
Thank you.
That’s important. You tune into your inner self while you’re walking or looking, and that’s what you manifest.
He was walking too. He was slowly turning and walking toward me, and it was like I was getting a different video. It was really amazing.
Thank you for sharing that.
Absolutely. That’s why I wanted to know what you experienced with Alex Collier, to see if there was a duality. He feels relaxing and calm. There’s a group of people at Galactic Spiritual Informers who all love him.
Hey Teresa, I just wanted to give you a heads up. We’re at one hour and three minutes.
Wow, this went by fast. Go ahead and wrap it up.
Wow. Thank you all for letting me speak. Janet, I was going to ask you: what’s the current disclosure thing? Does it have something to do with Enki versus Enlil? There’s the story that Enlil played Yahweh in the Bible, and our current situation has something to do with what happened when the Anunnaki came here, the Orion wars, and the reptilians. I’m asking for a simple, short answer. We can go into it later in another episode.
We’ll have to do another episode. I’m in the middle of writing this story I’m going to publish, and I’ll go further in depth. But yes, that’s what I think.
There’s DC disclosure, government disclosure, and there’s Hollywood disclosure. They’ve been doing that probably since right after Roswell. The Day the Earth Stood Still was probably the first effort of disclosure back in 1951. So they probably filmed it in 1950. They researched it and got it out.
We’ve had disclosure all along in little bits and pieces, but the part most people don’t do is tie it together. In my article—which I’m putting out today on Substack—it’s just a theory, but I’ve been researching it. To say it very quickly, I think that Jesus, in Revelation, comes down in the clouds—basically a UFO—and says, “Halt. We’re not going to destroy humanity. We’re going to stop this before it’s too late.” Then begins the Aquarian Age because he’s been promised his turn to rule. He stepped back and let Marduk rule, since, basically, Sodom and Gomorrah were told to leave Earth to the humans and get off-planet.
Most of the Anunnaki left, but not all of them. Some stayed and are still governing behind the scenes. They’re the eye at the top of the all-seeing pyramid. They’re coming back and saying, “Enough of this. We allowed Marduk to do this, but now comes the Aquarian Age—equal peace, technology, cures for all diseases, and the cure for aging.” Aging is a disease. We have a right to have life expectancy of hundreds of thousands of years like our Anunnaki family and other civilizations.
Bring it on, because TJ and I want to race around the block together. My husband turns 86, and it’s like, if not now, when? So I’d encourage you, Brad, to come out of the closet and share your stories. Disclosure is really a grassroots movement. We have to insist on it, because we’re saving our own lives and saving the planet. They could clean up all this environmental mess. We are really stupid living like this.
Yeah, stupid. Brad, tell us where we can hear you.
I really don’t have a regular public presence, but I’ve been interviewed by a few different people. Scott Nichols interviewed me on Sunday on Ramblers of the Round Table. Ryan interviewed me last year. Lori and Benton interviewed me a few years ago. A few others. TJ, you interviewed me. Sean Bond interviewed me earlier this year.
So you’re on YouTube. If you put your name into YouTube, it’ll come up. There are a couple of other people with similar names.
I’m really impressed you got your own name. I have Theresa J. Morris, TJ Morris Show, ET Talk TV, and ACO Club. I’ve got thousands of YouTubes.
Janet, can you describe your Ninmah book? What is it about? I haven’t read it yet, but I’m planning to get it.
Basically, I got a download that I am a fractal of Ninmah. Not really an incarnation, but a fractal—an avatar. Ninmah is an immortal soul, hundreds of years old, if not millions, and she can send her essence into different people. I was instructed to tell her story.
This is actually part one. I also have a second book. It’s her story—what happened in her history, going back to Nibiru and her world and the creation of humanity, all the way through to today.
There it is.
That one has beautiful artwork. Who’s the artist?
I had a graphics artist from Bulgaria design my covers. I would tell them what to do. I like to tell people what to do.
Very beautiful. I like all the covers. I want to compliment you on that.
Thank you. Both of us are starving artists. We’re both retired, and I don’t know how anybody lives on retirement.
I’m a best friend, and I still have to buy her books. Same thing. Brett Lutter’s books are $36 because he publishes them himself and has his own ISBN. I’m gradually putting our books on CCC.
Anyway, support our work. Go sign up for TJ’s Substack. Brad already did. Thank you so much, Brad.
Yay. Well, you’ve got to get yours, Brad Markus. That’ll help us get to events, produce events, and do more, because I’m obsessed with this whole field and have been my entire life.
We’ll be back on Friday. Tell us about Friday’s show with Teresa.
Friday’s show—
I was looking at Thomas. I know the few Brad mentioned.
They are huge revealers. Is that your friend Thomas Lynch, Brad?
I’ve never heard that name. Thomas Lynch? Never heard of the person.
Are you getting people in the chat? Who’s in the chat today?
I don’t have the chat open.
He said we all did a splendid job. Good comments.
Is this live on YouTube right now? I’ve got a question. Has there been any chat?
Yeah. I just turned it on. Here’s Thomas.
I just learned to do it because Alex Collier does it.
Can you see him in front of Janet?
I’m looking at StreamYard, so I don’t know how to look at YouTube at the same time.
Thomas says, “Brad has not heard of me because I watch who Brad mentioned. They are huge revealers.”
Yeah, Ryan interviewed me last year before one of David’s conferences, the one in April, I think.
Well, Thomas would really love to know more about you. Thank you for joining us and letting us know somebody out there found us, even though we didn’t tell anybody we were doing the show. I do mine like Easter eggs all over YouTube, Brad. I’ve got hundreds literally.
You are a big Easter egg planter, Teresa. It’s like your ET self kicks in, and you can do things simultaneously everywhere. I come back in the morning, and it’s like, look at what Teresa’s done.
I want to show you this lady’s card. She’s going to be one of the speakers. Her name is Paula Asteria.
Oh, I know Apolla. Back it up a little.
I’ll tell you a story about Apolla. In 2018, I had a conference and didn’t have much help at the front, so I had to stay there registering people the whole time. She volunteered to help at the door, seating people and taking tickets. Somebody didn’t show up, so Apolla just walked up to the panel, sat down, and did the panel with the others. Later, I found out and thought, way to go, Apolla.
Now she’s an extra in Hollywood. She was trying to break into Hollywood, and a lot of times, in current Star Trek productions when they have extras, she’ll be an alien in the crowd. See if you can get pictures of her. She’s in a lot of the Star Trek episodes.
I’ve seen her at a few conferences already—Galactic Spiritual Informers in Orlando and Rob Potter’s one year.
Another person I’m a fan of is Christa Raisa. Her channel is called Ezot Terra. She does readings, and she’s also a starseed and a friend of Artorus Ra, who’s an energy inventor.
Well, I just think you’re a beautiful promoter, Brad. I would say to anyone that Brad is a beautiful soul, a beautiful spirit. He’s very highly advanced as a soul. I don’t know that he’s died in this reality, but he’s definitely close to what he seeks to reveal.
Have you died in this reality and returned, Brad?
Yeah. I had a close-to-death experience, but it didn’t really change my consciousness. It did free me up from having to work a 9-to-5. I can tell you about it later privately.
I have to go. Everybody has to go.
I’m ready to go too. We’ll talk after the live for a couple of minutes, okay, if you’ll stay. Lots of love. Come to alienvent.com. I’m going to plug it—LAX Sonesta Hotel, March 20 through 22. Tickets are available online or at the door. I’m speaking on Sunday, March 22, and it’s early in the morning, so please come by.
Wake up.
I’m on Facebook as Brad Markus, or on Instagram at Intergalactic Research.
All right.
Thank you, Ninmah—I mean Janet Lessin—and thank you, Teresa Morris. Join us on Friday for Stephen Bassett, part three. We’re going to talk about disclosure. Okay, sign off.
Let me tell you, Thomas said, “I just learned of Brad M., surprisingly, because I know Sean Bond’s and Ryan Veli’s material well. TJ Morris and Janet, you sweet, sweet, dearly beloved, are a pure joy, and I finally caught you again.”
So he’s seen us before, Janet. Thank you.
Yes. Excellent. Well, sign off with Teresa. I’ve got to go.
Okay. He says it’s great to be free from 9 to 5. All right, Thomas, write to me at TJ Morris Agency. Tell me about yourself.
All right, folks, we’ll be back Friday night with Stephen Bassett of the Paradigm Research Group to continue his stream of thought on super consciousness and where we’re going with disclosure.
Thomas, Brad—how does he follow you?
Thomas Lynch 5849, I guess that’s his YouTube channel. Anyway, I guess he’ll look you up.
Thank you, Thomas. Bye-bye. Hi, Janet.
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