THE LAST DAYS OF THE LIE: STEPHEN BASSETT ON DISCLOSURE, WAR, AND THE WINDOW CLOSING FAST

by Janet Lessinupdated on March 14, 2026March 14, 2026

The truth embargo has nearly collapsed. Nuclear war looms. And the two most consequential events in human history may be converging at exactly the same moment.

By Janet Kira Lessin | Aquarian Media From the Aquarian Media broadcast of March 6, 2026 Panelists: Janet Kira Lessin, Theresa J. Morris | Guest: Stephen Bassett, Paradigm Research Group

Stephen Bassett has spent 30 years in Washington as the first—and still the only—professional lobbyist registered to advocate for the disclosure of extraterrestrial presence to the American public. He founded the Paradigm Research Group in 1996. He organized the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure. He has testified before Congress, appeared on every major network, and tracked the truth embargo — the formal government policy that no extraterrestrial presence exists — through every twist of its long, slow death.

When Bassett says the truth embargo has nearly collapsed, he speaks from 30 years of front-row witness to that collapse. When he says we have run out of time, he means it in the most precise and urgent sense.

On March 6, 2026, Bassett joined Aquarian Media’s Janet Kira Lessin and Theresa J. Morris for a conversation that ranged from the Iran crisis to the Epstein scandal to the Spielberg disclosure film to the question of ET intervention — and arrived at a conclusion that every person alive in 2026 needs to hear.

Here is what we learned.

THE TRUTH EMBARGO IS DYING — BUT IT HAS NOT DIED YET

Bassett opened with the clearest assessment he has ever delivered publicly: “The truth embargo is now collapsed to near nothing. There is almost nothing left of it. However, it has not ended yet.”

That distinction matters enormously. The truth embargo — the formal policy of the United States government, maintained with the implicit cooperation of Russia, China, and every allied nation, for eighty years — has suppressed the most important fact in human history: that Earth receives visits from civilizations more advanced in technology than our own. Bassett calls it “the biggest lie of all time,” and by any objective measure, he is right. No deception in recorded history has involved more governments, more institutions, more deliberate suppression of evidence, or more profound consequences for the population kept in the dark.

That lie now clings to “a last thread before it wholly collapses.” The thread has not broken. But the pressure on it has reached a level Bassett describes as beyond anything he imagined when he began his work in 1996. “It is crazier, more intense, more complicated than anything I could have imagined. It is off the charts.”

TWO RIVERS RUNNING TOWARD THE SAME WATERFALL

Bassett’s most arresting image from the conversation: two wholly different phenomena now travel together through time, converging toward a head in the 21st century. The first is the disclosure of extraterrestrial presence — the most profound truth in human history, advancing through Congress, through whistleblower testimony, through the crumbling infrastructure of an eighty-year cover-up. The second is humanity’s ancient, unbroken dedication to killing itself — currently manifest in the Iran crisis, which Bassett describes as “a thousand times more dangerous” than any recent geopolitical flashpoint, a conflict that has already pulled nine nations into its orbit and carries the genuine potential for nuclear weapons use.

“These two things are literally happening together,” Bassett said. “One is the most profound truth in history. The other is one of the most ancient behaviors in history. Humans are very consistent.”

The ET presence has delivered its message through decades of contact: stop building nuclear weapons. Stop threatening to use them. Stop destroying the environment. Stop the killing. The shutting down of nuclear facilities by unidentified craft — now fully documented, confirmed by military witnesses on the record — represents the clearest possible signal from an advanced civilization to a self-destructive one. The signal has gone unanswered. The weapons remain. The threats continue.

Bassett does not believe the extraterrestrials will intervene to save humanity from itself. Every signal he has read across thirty years of research points in the same direction: they warn us. They demonstrate their capability. They do not remove our agency. “When they turn our nuclear weapons off, they let us turn them back on. They could have shut them down in such a way that you could not have turned them back on.”

That choice — to warn rather than to control — places the full weight of the decision on human consciousness. It is, as Bassett frames it, the only honoring of human dignity available to a civilization watching children play with weapons of mass destruction.

THE OBAMA MANEUVER AND THE TRUMP STATEMENT

Bassett walked through two recent political developments with the precision of a man who has watched disclosure politics for three decades.

Former President Barack Obama, in an arranged appearance with podcaster Brian Tyler Cohen, confirmed that UFOs are real — then doubled down on that confirmation before backing away within twenty-four hours. Bassett reads the sequence as a deliberate maneuver rather than a slip. A former president cannot step into the business of a sitting president. Obama’s rapid retreat followed protocol. But the initial statement and the doubling down served a specific purpose: they moved the needle, generated hundreds of media stories overnight, and shifted the public conversation in ways that could not be undone by the retraction.

More significantly, the current president stated publicly that he would obtain the government’s UFO files. “It is the first time ever that a sitting president has specifically said ‘I am going to get the files,'” Bassett said. “That gives the confirmation and the gravitas to getting those files. He has now, in plain terms, provided cover for any witnesses thinking about coming forward. He has provided cover for members of Congress. The president has literally taken this right to the edge of disclosure.”

THE THREE-WAY CONVERGENCE: SCANDAL, WAR, AND DISCLOSURE

Bassett laid out a geopolitical architecture of startling complexity. Three massive forces now operate in the same space at the same time: the largest political scandal in the history of civilization (his words — he means the Epstein network and its connections to power at every level), the Iran crisis and its nuclear escalation potential, and the imminent disclosure of extraterrestrial presence.

Each force interacts with the others in ways that create both danger and opportunity.

The scandal requires a distraction of sufficient magnitude to provide political cover. Disclosure would provide that magnitude, but disclosure used as a distraction diminishes its legacy and invites the obvious attack: “You announce aliens to make us forget Epstein?” The Iran crisis provides the distraction first, separating it from disclosure and making the latter available as something more than a political maneuver.

Bassett’s conclusion carries real weight: “If the president then comes forward and discloses, it is going to be ridiculous to assert that the reason he is finally ending a lie about the alien presence is to distract from the Epstein scandal. That distraction is already there. Then why this? Because it has to come from the president. It will change the world forever.”

And — most striking — disclosure might actually help solve the war. “The confirmation of an extraterrestrial presence may be just the thing to bring that conflict under control. To reset, to rethink. Wait a minute, we are not alone in the universe. They have tech, they have bodies. Why do we not just stop a major slaughter for right now? Chill before we kill another 500,000 people.”

THE EXPERIENCER QUESTION

Our conversation turned to the role of experiencers — the millions of people worldwide who have had direct contact with non-human intelligence and whose testimony the government suppressed, pathologized, and ignored for the same eighty years the truth embargo ran.

Disclosure changes everything for experiencers. “On the other side of disclosure,” Bassett said, “there are millions of people who have had contact who are at once going to be in play. Scientists want to talk to them. That is why the government feels very uncomfortable.” Whitley Strieber alone has compiled hundreds of thousands of contact accounts, now held in the “impossible files” at Rice University. The moment disclosure lands, those accounts become legitimate data. The fields of consciousness research, ET contact studies, and experiencer testimony transform overnight from fringe curiosity to an essential historical record.

I raised the question of mass experiencer disclosure — whether a coordinated, simultaneous coming-forward of contactees and whistleblowers could accelerate the process. Bassett acknowledged the power of testimony while emphasizing the importance of timing and the congressional process already underway. Members of Congress have received clearance to visit locations where non-human craft and bodies are reportedly stored. The institutional pathway toward formal confirmation moves forward even as the world burns around it.

THE ANUNNAKI DIMENSION

I brought to the conversation what Sasha and I have spent decades researching: the Anunnaki context. The extraterrestrials who contact us now, who shut down our nuclear weapons, who deliver messages through experiencers across the globe — they operate within a history that extends far beyond the eighty-year truth embargo. The Anunnaki created humanity as a genetic project. They departed, leaving management systems running. They had their own nuclear catastrophe. Enki — the Anunnaki geneticist who championed the human experiment — then refused to sanction nuclear weapons, as the Sumerian texts record.

When ET craft appear over nuclear facilities today and render the weapons inoperable, that pattern carries Enki’s signature. When contactees receive the same message across decades — stop the killing, stop the nuclear escalation, stop destroying the only planet you have — that message carries the weight of a civilization that learned its lesson through catastrophic loss.

Bassett engages this dimension with the caution of a political activist working within institutional frameworks. His concern with ET intervention as a concept: if people believe rescue comes from outside, the motivation to act from within collapses. “We have to operate on the assumption they are not going to intervene. We need to try to fix it ourselves.”

I hold both positions. Intervention may come — the Anunnaki did not abandon their creation and would not stand by while nuclear weapons destroy the planet they seeded. But the possibility of intervention does not remove the responsibility to act. It never has. Enki’s message was always: here is what you need to know. Now choose.

WHAT BASSETT SAYS WE MUST DO

Bassett distilled thirty years of activation into concrete near-term priorities.

The START treaty — the nuclear arms reduction framework between the United States and Russia — must return to the table. Its collapse removed the primary diplomatic architecture for preventing the very scenario now unfolding around Iran. Its restoration represents the most urgent single diplomatic action available.

Disclosure must proceed through the presidential confirmation pathway. Congressional hearings, whistleblower testimony, and document releases all build the foundation — but only a sitting president’s confirmation carries the weight required to end the truth embargo and legitimize what follows.

The conversation between the disclosure community and the public must continue and expand. “The more we talk ahead of time, speculate a little bit, it is going to be easier to deal with it.” Preparation matters. The psychological shock of confirmation — that humanity has never been alone, that advanced civilizations have operated in our skies for at least eighty documented years and in human history for far longer — requires a public that has already begun to process the possibility.

And time has run out for gradualism. “We are eighty-some seconds from midnight on the Doomsday Clock. We have nukes all over the planet. They are already starting to figure out how to use them from space. We are out of time. We either solve this now or reality is going to solve it for us.”

THE SPIELBERG SIGNAL

The conversation opened with the Spielberg question — the June 12, 2026, release of Disclosure Day, his film marking fifty years since Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Bassett’s framing of the film fits his broader analysis: it arrives at the precise moment when the truth embargo clings to its last thread, when a president has put himself on record about obtaining the files, when Congress moves toward formal confirmation. Spielberg has carried soft disclosure through decades of film — Close Encounters, E.T., Taken — and Disclosure Day arrives as something different: a film whose title alone carries the weight of the institutional moment.

Whether it constitutes the full revelation Spielberg has hinted at, or another step in the long preparation of public consciousness, it lands in a window that makes its impact impossible to predict and impossible to ignore.

CONCLUSION: THE WINDOW

Stephen Bassett has given his life to a single mission: ending the biggest lie ever told. He stands at the edge of that ending, watching it unfold in the most chaotic, dangerous, and consequential moment he could have imagined when he began.

The truth embargo dies in this window. The question is what else dies with it — or because of it — and what gets built in the space the truth creates.

The ETs have delivered their message. The whistleblowers have delivered their testimony. The experiencers have carried their accounts through decades of dismissal and isolation. The researchers have built the evidentiary record. The activists have worked the institutional machinery.

Now the moment belongs to all of us — to every person alive in 2026 who chooses to receive the truth rather than the managed narrative, to refuse the ancient behavior rather than perform it one more time, and to understand that the civilization watching us from advanced craft in our skies has not given up on us yet.

They shut our weapons down. They let us turn them back on.

The choice, as it has always been, belongs to us.

Janet Kira Lessin is CEO of Aquarian Media and a lifelong ET experiencer, consciousness researcher, and Anunnaki scholar. She studied directly with Zecharia Sitchin from 1998 to 2010 and has produced more than 1,200 episodes of Aquarian Radio and Aquarian Media. Stephen Bassett is the executive director of the Paradigm Research Group and the first registered professional lobbyist in Washington, D.C. to advocate for disclosure of extraterrestrial presence. Theresa J. Morris co-hosts the Aquarian Media broadcast.

The full transcript of the March 6, 2026, broadcast appears on the Aquarian Media Substack.

TRANSCRIPT FROM 03-06-26 Aquarian Media Show, Janet Kira Lessin, Theresa J. Morris, Stephen Bassett – Panelists

The Full Transcript: Aquarian Media with Stephen Bassett

Panelists: Janet Kira Lessin, Terri Janette Thomas (TJ) Guest: Stephen Bassett

TJ: Welcome aboard all you ground troops spinning around smartly on the planet. We’re back. Yes, we are. So, ET is phoning home again. Okay, we’re all here on a planet called Earth, Gaia, Sophia, Safia, whatever you want to call her. and she’s talking to us these days from all levels. And I’ve got some really good ideas, but so has everybody else I talk to because things are changing vastly and fastly. So, if you want to be your higher self, today we’re going to be discussing alchemy and psionics and UFOs and UAPs and lots of people that we call are in the UFO association and a lot of you are in our Facebook groups and UFO Secret Space. So join us and hopefully we’ll be back here every Friday with whomever with the paradigm research group which that is going to be with Stephen Bassett who started that.

We’re going to hear all about the Paradigm Research Group and what his vision was for all of us because Janet and I have been putting our emails in as I’ve changed them as fast as I get a new phone. Janet Lessin, you’re the co-host tonight doing Aquarian Media from Hawaii. Why don’t you go ahead and introduce yourself and then if you want I’ll read a little bit about Stephen after you get off. Go ahead.

Janet: Oh, who wants to know about me? Um, I’m a lifelong experiencer. I’ve had contact with ET since the crib and I’ve been interviewing people. I’ve been writing books about it. I’m an Anunnaki researcher. My husband’s an anthropologist, psychotherapist and worked with hundreds if not thousands of people doing hypnotherapy and regression. So we’ve been actively involved with this field. Well, he started back in the 60s when he was an anthropologist and he would cover he would discover these doing his research in the field in the South Pacific all these anomalies and so we got involved with Sitchin and started going to the UFO conferences.

I started actually with Star Trek which you know those people were really leading the way and I think that was soft disclosure. They were introducing concepts to us in science fiction to prepare us for this day 2026 and you know this time that we’re experiencing now during this show I just want to say real quickly I want to talk about um the upcoming events—the 2026 movie on June 12th called Disclosure Day and what led up to it. So if we come back to me, I will be asking questions to Steve about how this all ties in. So I’m Janet Kira Lessin and I am way out there, but I’m real excited to be here again. We’re back after a year of hiatus. So glad to be back.

TJ: Okay, Janet’s one side of the tootsie roll and I guess you could say Stephen Bassett’s on the other side. Now Stephen Bassett is a lobbyist folks for our cause for disclosure. So he’s the primary role for all of us as a human acting as our executive director for the paradigm research group. You can see PRG a lot of places but actually that was founded in 1996. Historically there’s a milestone with Bassett because he’s recognized as the first professional lobbyist in Washington DC for the purpose of advocating for the disclosure of extraterrestrial presence which he did at a very early age.

The mission of his life’s work is focused on ending the government imposed truth embargo regarding UAP (unidentified aerial phenomena) and NHI (non-human intelligence). He believes that formal confirmation by heads of state is the single most important event in human history. As of today in 2026 he remains a leading voice in the movement. He’s recently commenting on the 2026 State of the Union address and the ongoing process of identifying and releasing government files related to UFOs.

Now, how does he fit in with us? Well, he has a legacy of activism because he organized the citizen hearing on disclosure. He’s been a frequent commentator on major networks programs like Coast to Coast AM. I believe George Noory—they go by so fast in this reality—so he represents the political and legal will of the movement. I began with Stanton Friedman; he was a government type person. But we also have the alien contact organization. We started in 2014 with Dr. Bruce Maccabee, PhD, who is now on the other side helping us tonight. And Janet and I started ACCO here on the internet with radio. Believe it or not, our radios have gone worldwide to the Emirates, India, Thailand, everywhere. And they were saying tonight they were really wanting us to do a good show with Stephen Bassett himself. So, take it away Paradigm Research Group activist lobbyist Stephen Bassett, you are on. How are you today, sir?

Stephen Bassett: Uh, not too bad. It’s a nice day in California. It was actually a beautiful day in California. Still is. I was able to get out here before the worst hit the East Coast and glad to be here. Thank you very much.

TJ: Let’s dive into disclosure. I want to know about what Stephen thinks about the upcoming movie with Stephen Spielberg. It’s 50 years since Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Spielberg has been on top of all this all this time with the series Taken and ET and a number of UFO ET related movies. We wondered where he got his information, but there’s all this hype about like he said he’s going to reveal everything all at once. Stephen, have you heard about it and what do you think about it?

Stephen Bassett: Well, to make a long point very simple, the truth embargo—a formal policy that there are no extraterrestrials—is now virtually collapsed. There’s almost nothing left of it. However, it hasn’t ended yet. So we’re in the last days of an 80-year policy of the United States government with the cooperation of all of its allies. The implicit cooperation of our two largest entities, Soviet Union (Russia) and China, that has essentially maintained the biggest lie of all time.

Preventing the entire world from knowing the most important thing they’ll ever know, at least certainly up to now. And that is that we’re not only not alone, but we are being visited by other civilizations more advanced than us, but clearly advanced in a way that we could possibly also achieve. Nothing gets bigger than this. Ancient times… I’m sure there were some entities present. They’ve had a little fun, got to play God for a while on vacation. Created some nice archaeology—that’s trivial compared to what’s happening now.

It’s basically gone. It’s just clinging to a last thread before it completely collapses. All of this is happening right now. It’s very stressful. There was no way to predict what it would be like in the last days of the truth embargo. Would it be calm? Would it be crazy? Well, we’re starting to find out. It’s crazier, more intense, more complicated than anything I could have imagined in 1996. It’s off the charts.

The world is in multiple crises up against multiple walls trying to deal with its ancient behaviors which simply we can’t dispel… and the outcome is very unknown. And all of this is happening at the very same time that our president could disclose and confirm the ET presence tomorrow because there’s evidence clearly on the table. This is heavy duty.

We’re at a milestone in terms of world conflict, the first major milestone in the 21st century. The actions in the Middle East, in Iran, are a thousand times more dangerous than say the snatching of Maduro in South America or an embargo in Cuba. What’s happening in Iran is very big. It has already triggered weapons, missiles fired at nine different countries, which means nine different countries have been involved already and technically somewhat at war. Starting to look like World War II, right?

And I don’t know where this is going to go. At the same time, the disclosure process is still well alive in Congress. Members of Congress are still taking questions, talking about potential hearings, talking about they’ve been cleared to visit locations where allegedly non-human craft are stored as well as bodies. This is Eric Burlison just recently. These two things are traveling now together through time and space. They couldn’t be more different. One is the most profound truth in history and the other is one of the most ancient behaviors in history. Humans are very consistent.

Everything’s been perfect… I’m being metaphorical. They’re traveling together right down through time and coming kind of to a head in the 21st century. This is probably the most transitional event with the actions in Iran. They could trigger nuclear weapon use. They could trigger a non-state actor terrorist “loose nuke” event, which would be extremely concerning. Even more concerning than a missile getting fired that could have been claimed to be a mistake. You can’t shoot down a van driven downtown in some city and detonated at the level of almost Hiroshima.

All of this is on the table now. These two things are literally happening together. One is ancient behavior. We’ve been doing it for 400,000 years. Humans survive by killing things and each other for space, food, sex, whatever. We’ve killed our own species by the billions over the last 400,000 years. We’re still killing them in large numbers. We can’t stop it, right? We have enough weapons on the planet right now to kill everybody essentially. We have bioweapons we haven’t used yet. So, this is what we do.

At the same time, we have this extraterrestrial presence which is strongly manifest over 80 years giving messages to us: Don’t do this anymore. Stop killing each other. Stop building nuclear weapons. Stop threatening to use nuclear weapons. Stop destroying the environment. Stop acting like the little children on the only planet that you have. These messages are coming forward for decades to contactees. The shutting down the nukes is now fully documented. So you’ve got these two things happening at the same time: one, our full dedication to mayhem, and the other, the ETs trying to point out to us another way. Now, they could just intervene and take over—bad children, give us a spanking—but they’re not choosing to do that. The dynamic tension between these two things is just… I mean I have to take a number of mood-altering drugs in order to get through this.

Perfect example: in the middle of all this, we have a whole lot of people line up to run to be the next president. People that are smart. Let’s pick one, Gavin Newsom. Newsom has got the looks, the suave, intelligence… and he gets asked about these developments with respect to ETs and he just giggles like a little girl. I’m looking at him, I’m saying, did you just climb out of a cave? Do you really think you’re going to get to be president by somehow not knowing what’s been going on and acting like this is a silly issue?

On the other hand, we have another person who has been president, Barack Obama, who out of nowhere makes a very dramatic maneuver. Barack Obama is fully aware of the international catastrophe underway. He is fully aware of the risk of nuclear weapons. He also knows about the ET presence. He’s alluded to it. He’s had advisors very close to him that know about it, particularly John Podesta. He goes on a talk show with one of the top podcasters, Brian Tyler Cohen. It just so happens that he asks Obama: Are aliens real? I’m going to suggest that was not an accident. That was arranged.

He’s asked that question. “UFOs are real?” Yes, they are real, but I have never seen one. Then he doubles down: “They’re not at Area 51.” Meaning these real aliens are not at Area 51 as people think, unless there’s this giant conspiracy to keep presidents from knowing where they actually are. That generates hundreds of media stories overnight. No accident.

Now what happens next? What he has to do next is back out. If he had backed out after the initial statement, you could say “slip up.” But no, he doubles down twice, waits 24 hours, and then he backs out. Is he that dumb? No. The reason he had to back out within 24 hours is that a former president does not step into the business of a sitting president. That is a standard protocol. bill that’s sort of doing that. It doesn’t matter because the moment he makes that Truth Social post, whether he understands it or not, he has completely changed the game.

It’s the first time ever that a sitting president has specifically said “I’m going to get the files.” That gives the confirmation and the gravitas to getting those files. He has now basically provided cover for any witnesses that are thinking about coming forward. He’s provided cover for any members of Congress like Burchett or Luna or Schumer. The president literally has taken this right to the edge of disclosure. Obama tripped that switch in just 48 hours.

Now, I expected dramatic things to happen very quickly. However, within only a couple of days after that, the move on Iran goes into play. It was already in the planning when the president made the statement about getting the files. So, when that gets launched, that statement is pushed aside for now and the press is all over the Iran situation.

If you want to look at the dynamics, it’s very interesting. Because in addition to the Middle East problem and the “ETs really are here” problem, there is another problem going on which will be viewed by historians as the biggest political scandal in the history of civilization. Meaning the total scope, the global aspect, the number of people involved. Colossal. Anybody that thinks this scandal is going to pass them by needs to think again. I don’t think anybody substantially involved is going to escape this.

Everybody agrees that if the administration could create a situation to move people’s attention away from that scandal into something much more immediate and profound, it would be extremely helpful. Call it a distraction, call it a diversion. However, how does that happen? For the last month, the idea of disclosure has been raised as a distraction. No question. Its magnitude is significant. Not only would it be a distraction, but the confirmation by the president would be met with enormous praise.

Except there is a problem. If the president were to disclose the ET presence, it would be immediately raised that this is being done as a diversion from the scandal, and that would diminish its legacy. We’d be attacked. “You say there’s aliens here and you think we’re going to forget about Epstein?” In other words, it’s not the best tool—unless you have another option.

And so the situation in the Middle East is a true distraction. It is immediate. The potential for millions to die is huge. It is a big distraction. And so the administrators are engaging it in a powerful way. And now I’ll add the final component: with Iran as the major buffer in history from this massive scandal, it’s not going away. If the president then comes forward and discloses, it’s going to be ridiculous to assert that the reason he’s finally ending a lie about the alien presence is to distract from the Epstein scandal. That distraction is already there.

Then why this? Well, because it has to come from the president. It will change the world forever. And it’s not unreasonable to think that disclosure by the president of an extraterrestrial presence may be just the thing to bring that conflict under control. To reset, to rethink. Wait a minute, we’re not alone in the universe. They’ve got tech, they’ve got bodies. Why don’t we just stop a major slaughter thing for right now? Chill before we kill another 500,000 people. Things have really changed. This is even bigger than our immediate concerns. The third one (disclosure) could help solve the second one (war). And the two of them together means that no matter how bad the Epstein thing goes down, this president goes down in history for the post-disclosure world.

TJ: I wanted to bring up another part of the world going on… AI symbiote because I am a cyborg humanoid biological. I went to the alien event to be a speaker. Janet and I have been working on this together since 1994. I interviewed J. Allen Hynek when I was just a kid in the Navy. Back then, they just knew I was psychic. And I’d had ET experiences because my family worked at Sandia and White Sands. The NASA people were coming through my house. Some of them in the Air Force. Man, Florence Smith… she helped the Florida area with the Shah of Iran. 79 till now, that’s how long I’ve been waiting. There’s a lot of Iranians that really want to see this happen. We’ve got to be looking at both sides. How do you feel about that, Steve?

Stephen Bassett: What is it that you’re referring to?

TJ: Some people are glad that this is happening. Waving their Iranian flags.

Stephen Bassett: If I’ve said for as long as we’ve studied history, human beings are constantly at war with their own species on the basis of religion, territory, ethnicity. And we’ve slaughtered in the billions. Every instance one side had a powerful rationale. The other side had an equally powerful rationale why this was a war crime. The future of this world is not going to be because only the good sides win the violent conflicts and the bad people get obliterated. It’s going to finally work out when everybody understands that engaging others on the basis of violence is childish nonsense in the context of this galaxy.

There are species out there that view us like we view two-year-olds smacking each other on the head with little sand shovels. And those entities have gone to the trouble to engage us extensively. They’re not blowing things up. They’re the living proof it’s possible to develop advanced technology and not slaughter everybody. And yet we haven’t picked up on that because the government told us “we have no idea what you’re talking about.”

Violence and destruction is counterproductive. It indicates that as a species, we are not ready to proceed forward along the technological curve we’re on. We either need to be completely annihilated by an outside force so we’re not a trouble to anybody, or we need to be set back a thousand years—or we are given the opportunity to reconsider.

I believe the shutting down of the nukes and the end of the truth embargo is the way out. People say, “Why are you rushing things?” We no longer have any time. We’re 80-some seconds from midnight. (The Doomsday Clock). We’ve got nukes all over the planet. They’re already starting to figure out how to use them from space. We’re out of time. We either solve this now or reality is going to solve it for us. The idea that ETs will intervene to save us… everything I have seen, even shutting down nukes, does not say that to me. They are not going to step in when we finally take these ultimate weapons and rain them down on ourselves. I think they will say “fine, you needed to get that off your chest,” and in a thousand years they’ll come back to see where we are.

Janet: My husband and I research this stuff going back to the pre-Anunnaki. Yes, they had a nuclear war and they didn’t even stop their own. We’re going to have interventionism. I’ll write this all up and send it to you. This thing haunts me. I dream this stuff. We have arrived at this point that all my life I knew was coming. They’re going to step in because they will not let us destroy ourselves because we are their children. We are Enki’s experiment.

In the Mormon church, they say Jesus—who is Enki, the son of man—will come down in a cloud (ET) and take down the great and abominable church. They just anointed Trump… they did a ritual and anointed Trump as the Christ, the Messiah. So you’ve got to go through the whole history. Jean Dixon said in 2026 in March, the blonde president starts some stuff. Follow-up major event by July of 2026. I’ve been using my AI to correlate all these prophecies. It looks like we’re going to get intervention because the reason humanity was created was because the Anunnaki destroyed their planet. They had a nuclear holocaust. Enki walked out. He said “no, I would not have allowed nukes.”

When they come over nuclear facilities, they shut them off. They might let us launch missiles and then we wake up three days later and go “Who’s still alive?” And then we say “That’s it, no more nukes.” I think whoever I think that’s will stop it and he puts through the Aquarian Age. Steve, what do you think? Am I nuts or what?

Stephen Bassett: Well, yeah. No, it is heavy. Reaching for things that they may know. Do you recall the year Jean Dixon made that prediction?

Janet: I think it was in the 50s. I will look for it.

Stephen Bassett: As an activist, I can’t dismiss that concept. But to the extent that people are strongly of a mind that the ETs are going to step in, it’s not particularly motivating for people to start taking our own actions to try to prevent this from happening. We’ve got to get the START treaty back. Second issue: if they knew they could step in, why warn us at all? Why shut the nukes down? Why the advanced messaging? And when they turn our nuclear weapons off, they let us turn them back on. They could have shut them down in such a way you could not have turned them back on.

I’m not going to take that chance. I have to operate on the assumption they are not going to intervene. We need to try to fix it ourselves. The thing that could fix it is we disclose their presence. That opens the door to open contact. Nuclear war is probably put on the back burner while we deal with that.

Janet: I’m not saying not do anything because we can have disclosure if a million contactees and whistleblowers all came out at once. I’ve been in the secret space program. I’ve worked in the closet—everybody, let’s start tonight. I have worked on a military base alongside extraterrestrials. They’re here and they walk among us. How many would we need to have an experiencer disclosure?

Stephen Bassett: Testimony could be exotic stuff. There are plenty of people who have had direct interaction within the government context. They could come forward to committees. These stories will eventually come out. The question is timing. I’m going to get to that question. But I have to relocate. Give me four to five minutes. reset up inside.

TJ: Logistics. How do we get 500,000 to a million people’s testimonials on file? Who’s going to read through these?

Janet: That’s what AI is for. We couldn’t have space flight without AI. Humans can’t calculate fast enough.

TJ: We got involved right when Stargate was hitting before they shut it down in 95. You heard the testimony of the gentleman in Israel and Pat Price. All that SRI. Everybody’s in the government at that age, they’re going to be passing on. So they’re all leaving books or some type of legacy on the AI. Society of Professional Journalists—I’ve been doing this a very long time. I was a GS security manager. When I got the mission, my handler took me right to Dolores Cannon. I knew I was on the ET journey. Then I get on Thomas Ray Morris—Tom was on our show a number of times. He died and Teresa, you witnessed his death and how his soul split.

Stephen Bassett: I’m back. I’m doing about 150 podcasts a year. One reason sincere members of the national security apparatus are afraid is they are well aware that on the other side of disclosure, there are millions of people that have had contact who are suddenly going to be in play. It could be overwhelming to the public. Whitley Strieber has hundreds of thousands of these turned over to the “impossible files” at Rice University. Instantly, all these contactees are legitimized. Scientists want to talk to them. That’s why they (government) feel very uncomfortable.

Janet: What happens after disclosure? Are we going to have the tech? Shapeshifting craft? Bio-med beds where you can put your head back on? Neil Freer froze his head. He was a contactee who had direct contact with the Anunnaki as a teenager. What will you do if you live forever? Are you going to treat the Earth like a trash can? We won’t be escaping it. You’ll be living on the planet you’re trashing. Can you learn to get along with your neighbors? The ETs think we’re barbaric. War is not natural. Murder is murder. There’s no possible positive outcome. The child that got killed might have been someone really great. Their destiny got ripped out from under them.